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Windows 8 and New OEM rules.

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Seems the OEM rules have changed, and you can now buy Windows 32/64bit OEM version without buying hardware or being distributed with already-constructed PCs sold from specialist PC retailers.. So now instead of a Windows 8 Retail pack anyone can buy a OEM pack.

 

"PC World has been told by several computer retailers that it is possible to buy the Windows 8 Pro and Windows 8 32- and 64-bit OEM DVDs alone, without purchasing any additional hardware. Microsoft’s OEM rules have also changed to accommodate anyone building a PC from scratch in their home (not just huge Original Equipment Manufacturers like Samsung, Acer, Asus, or professional Delivery Service Partners like computer stores), and anyone intending to use the software on an existing machine, as long as they’re intending to use Windows 8 in a virtual machine."

 

"OEM Windows products have existed for several years, and were only meant to be distributed with already-constructed PCs sold from specialist PC retailers. However, these rules were not strictly enforced and many retailers sold OEM copies of Windows XP, Vista and 7 to any consumer who was also buying another piece of computer hardware — like a DVD drive, graphics card or motherboard."

 

"Despite Microsoft’s vague hinting to the contrary, it is actually possible to buy a copy of Windows 8 that you can install on a PC doesn’t already have Windows 7/Vista/XP on it."

 

"Specialist PC retailers like TechBuy, EYO, Scorpion Technology, and PC Case Gear are all offering Windows 8 ‘OEM’ products in their online stores as of today. TechBuy has 32- and 64-bit versions of the basic Windows 8 and enthusiast-grade Windows 8 Pro in its online store, priced around $120 for the basic and $170 for the Pro software. According to price aggregator StaticIce, prices average between $90 and $120 for a standard copy of Windows 8 and between $150 and $170 for Windows 8 Pro."

 

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/4401...y_full_version/

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that article at PCworld talks about the marketign fuck up that says full version.

 

it does not link to EOM rules changing, what is does confirm is that custom PC retailers and PC parts stores are still being naughty and selling OEM with out parts and then says they have changed the OEM rules but now how it has changed or the effect on the hobby builder.

 

for the record, MS wants people like us to by retail and not use OEM for our personal PCs.

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/...bid=sWQq8GiBy3I

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what is does confirm is that custom PC retailers and PC parts stores are still being naughty and selling OEM with out parts

How is that naughty?

All the OEM licence ever said was that the end user must only use an OEM licence if they got it with a PC.

There was no restriction on who could buy it, and it's not like PC shops buy the licence with hardware in the first place!

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There was no restriction on who could buy it, and it's not like PC shops buy the licence with hardware in the first place!

Actually there are restrictions on the Win 7 OEM.

From the OEM licence

To distribute the Software or Hardware in this Pack, you must be a System Builder

and accept this license. “System Builder” means an original equipment manufacturer, an assembler, a refurbisher, or a software

pre-installer that sells the Customer System(s) to a third party.

(My Bold).

 

However PCWorld don't appear to have a bloody clue either as the OEM licence was never restricted to (huge Original Equipment Manufacturers like Samsung, Acer, Asus, or professional Delivery Service Partners like computer stores)

So long as you where on selling the PC then you could buy an OEM licence without any hardware.

New Windows OEM licence can be read here

http://oem.microsoft.com/public/sblicense/...nse_english.pdf

And the personal licence here

http://personaluselicense.windows.com/en-US/default.aspx

I will leave you all to wade through that. :P

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Re-reading my post I don't really make clear what I meant to say...

 

What I was getting at was you didn't need to be buying hardware to buy a OEM licence, which seems to be some kind of weird myth that has been going around for years.

The restriction was that the END USER must only use the OEM licence if they got it with fully assembled hardware.

So anyone could buy an OEM licence, but they had to on-sell the system to a 3rd party for the license to be valid, thus making them a system builder.

 

Buying a licence and using a licence isn't really the same thing.

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Buying a licence and using a licence isn't really the same thing.

Ah got you now.

:-)

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Re-reading my post I don't really make clear what I meant to say...

 

What I was getting at was you didn't need to be buying hardware to buy a OEM licence, which seems to be some kind of weird myth that has been going around for years.

The restriction was that the END USER must only use the OEM licence if they got it with fully assembled hardware.

So anyone could buy an OEM licence, but they had to on-sell the system to a 3rd party for the license to be valid, thus making them a system builder.

 

Buying a licence and using a licence isn't really the same thing.

Pretty much.

 

 

In effect, there are two different products. There is the plain brown or white coloured package, which is an OEM System Builder 3-pack or 1-pack respectively. This package can be sold from supplier to builder, or from builder to builder.

 

Once the DVD case is removed from the plain coloured box, it becomes a system builder licensed copy of Windows. At this stage, it must be installed on a full system, and sold with that system.

 

It's all there in the sticky! :)

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So installed it yesterday morning. I dont like xbox music. Zune used to be a great music player.

 

 

Everything else is very cool and fast. 5 seconds from post to log in screen is cool as well.

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So installed it yesterday morning. I dont like xbox music. Zune used to be a great music player.

 

 

Everything else is very cool and fast. 5 seconds from post to log in screen is cool as well.

Why did they make so hard to get music videos in Zune now ...

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Why did they make so hard to get music videos in Zune now ...

I do believe this may be their way of supporting copyright infringements. Everything is being controlled and watched by MS in this latest OS.

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Yeah I dislike how its a full screen application, I've got the metro interface on my 24" screen so its kinda a side thing with the desktop being my main.

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So what does a PC screen look like compared to Win7 now? Do we see something that looks like a art gallery painting or a way to induce Vomiting?

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Is Windows 8 better than Win 7 for a standard desktop without touch capabilities?

While i haven't used it everyone in the computer industry says ubuntu or win 7

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Is Windows 8 better than Win 7 for a standard desktop without touch capabilities?

While i haven't used it everyone in the computer industry says ubuntu or win 7

 

Pfft.

 

Ubuntu is for scrubs. Debian/Gentoo/Slackware or GTFO. :P

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I like it. Bought Pro online for $40 last night and after a very short installation process, I was in and ready to go. It successfully saved 99% of my previous settings and carried them over just fine. After restoring games etc. from my 2nd HDD, it felt like home again. The new Metro Start Menu thing is actually not bad, I typically just open it with the windows key and start typing to find apps. That's just because I can't stand the look of non metro apps pinned to the menu... ugly icons.

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Is Windows 8 better than Win 7 for a standard desktop without touch capabilities?

 

I'd give it a go im enjoying it. Once you've had a fiddle and setup everything its very nice and extremely fast.

 

5 seconds from post im at the login screen.

 

Is Windows 8 better than Win 7 for a standard desktop without touch capabilities?

While i haven't used it everyone in the computer industry says ubuntu or win 7

 

 

by "everyone" you means a few retards who work on a service desk and some shit tier tech blogs or atomics front page lol.

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It certainly had it's critics, I was one of them. That was until I actually spent some time customizing it. Once done that and familiarized myself, it was really good to use.

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So installed it yesterday morning. I dont like xbox music. Zune used to be a great music player.

 

 

Everything else is very cool and fast. 5 seconds from post to log in screen is cool as well.

I had a report of graphics quality being down from Win7.

thats a 3rd hand report, they did say that launch time better.

Does WIn8 have the same aero disablign options for games and are the reports of a drop in graphics quality founded?

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What do you mean drop in graphics quality? Fonts aren't rendered in the same way and arguably not as nicely, but that's just fonts... I haven't noticed a downgrade in quality in any other way.

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Err its fine. I mean i use it on a 2560x1440 screen and it looks great.

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I wish my EEE had touchscreen, then I could really enjoy windows 8 properly. I use WP7 so I'm used to them tiles.

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