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Nothing like a good ol dictatorship to fire up an Islamic Republic

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just in case ya dont know yet, the new President in egypt gave himself dictatorial powers recently by issuing a decree that puts his will above the judiciary.

 

http://www.worldmag.com/2012/12/protests_c..._morsi_s_decree

 

Now they are writing up a constitution based of the ideals of the Muslim brotherhood who sponsors the new Egyption Pharaoh.

 

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With this out of the reach of the law, there is a good chance that place could transform into anything. Maybe even another Iran?

 

anyway, it should be interesting to see what that place becomes once the Political arm of the Islamic government gets into action. "The Holy Imperial Islamic Republic of Egypt" has a nice ring to it

 

Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

Surprise surprise?

 

And hey, don't be such a bigot, didn't you know it's international Islamophobia Awareness month?

 

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haha, I was waiting for someone to write "but the Catholics did worse things" or "why are you picking on the Islamic" etc. But i am only the messenger of what i see in the google news feed. I'm also very interested in dictators and Autocrats, especially when they are at the top of fascist regimes

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haha, I was waiting for someone to write "but the Catholics did worse things" or "why are you picking on the Islamic" etc. But i am only the messenger of what i see in the google news feed. I'm also very interested in dictators and Autocrats, especially when they are at the top of fascist regimes

I realise this, and i see your points with what you're posting, some of it is good material, but seriously dude, you've started nothing but Islamic hate threads for months.

 

I don't mean to offend you or anything, just that, I'm kinda over it.

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incorrect, i was all about Obama vs Romney and Gaza vs Israel in the last months. I also post stuff about communist North Korea and stuff about Nazi's. Its just politics

 

 

In any case, this is a big deal

 

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-concerns...-091846378.html

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama is calling for calm in Egypt and for the country to resolve differences over its constitutional impasse peacefully, a White House spokesman said on Monday.

Recent declarations by Egypt's President Mohamed Mursi that expanded his powers and put his decisions out of the reach of judicial review have raised questions internationally about the country's work on establishing a constitution and democratic system.

The decrees have also forced Obama to straddle two positions on Mursi, who helped broker a ceasefire in the recent Gaza conflict that was backed by the United States.

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who sponsors the new Egyption Pharaoh.

I can't be the only one who thought this:

 

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who sponsors the new Egyption Pharaoh.

I can't be the only one who thought this:

 

 

You can bite my shiny metal butt.

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haha

 

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Its kinda funny cuz if bender was the Pharoah the government would be more liberal then one under Sharia law. Drinking, gambling and prostitution would be good to go

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I'm also very interested in dictators and Autocrats, especially when they are at the top of fascist regimes

If you wanted to talk about Obama or Gillard you should have just said so.

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... seriously dude, you've started nothing but Islamic hate threads for months.

 

I don't mean to offend you or anything, just that, I'm kinda over it.

Don't worry dude.

 

Once the conversation gets serious, he'll be nowhere to be seen.

 

 

haha, I was waiting for someone to write "but the Catholics did worse things" or "why are you picking on the Islamic" etc.

Hmmmmm.

 

Sorry to disappoint you.

 

Weren't you the one calling me a troll for trying to inject some perspective into the Gaza thread? Or did that not happen?

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The Islamic world needs another Kemal Attaturk.

 

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Actually, if you spend some time reading all those books in the university library, you'd know that Kemalist politics would be regressive if applied to the West.

 

The world does not need Kemal Attaturk. Just the Islamic world and a few highly fundamentalist Christian countries like Uganda.

 

I'm also very interested in dictators and Autocrats, especially when they are at the top of fascist regimes

If you wanted to talk about Obama or Gillard you should have just said so.

 

What has the gay Marxist socialist Kenyan secret Muslim fascist done now?

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... seriously dude, you've started nothing but Islamic hate threads for months.

 

I don't mean to offend you or anything, just that, I'm kinda over it.

Don't worry dude.

 

Once the conversation gets serious, he'll be nowhere to be seen.

 

 

Well I guess we will just have to wait and see what the new Egyptian governments constitution is like, its ment to be coming out soon. If its a fascist piece of shit I will be very interested to see your serious conversation. Lucky for ilyria109, there is no need for concern of a major political revolution as everything is just fine and dandy in that carboard box under that rock. After all, nothing that affects them affects us right

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Egypt really is a very self-destructive country.

 

Nasser was an utter despot who replaced a King who only made Nasser look good by comparison.

 

Sadat actually had some sense, so they killed him.

 

Mubarak ruled with an iron fist whilst lining his own pockets.

 

This latest one looks set to put the country back into the dark ages.

 

They had best be careful, they have not had the USSR as a sponsor for a long time and could now lose the US.

 

I wonder if the bulk of their potato crop still goes to Russia? that was their tithe for the building of the Aswan dam, but I forget for how many years. Rather dumb deal, the dam reduced the annual flooding of the Nile so much that the crop failed year after year.

 

Such a pity, underneath it all, as with most places, the people are pretty decent, and the country is an amazing place, to visit.

 

Cheers

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Sadat actually had some sense, so they killed him.

Life story in the religious world. Right there.

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I know this sounds absolutely ridiculous. But I'm thinking "Potato Famine". Seriously. It has the hallmarks of a govt that doesn't care. Taking what it can despite the pain it causes it's people and it's a downward spiral.

 

I truly feel that Egypt is now a Egyptian Govt vs Egypt issue. They have declared themselves an enemy and I feel that they are going to give away their own product to the detriment of themselves.

 

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... seriously dude, you've started nothing but Islamic hate threads for months.

 

I don't mean to offend you or anything, just that, I'm kinda over it.

Don't worry dude.

 

Once the conversation gets serious, he'll be nowhere to be seen.

 

 

Well I guess we will just have to wait and see what the new Egyptian governments constitution is like, its ment to be coming out soon. If its a fascist piece of shit I will be very interested to see your serious conversation. Lucky for ilyria109, there is no need for concern of a major political revolution as everything is just fine and dandy in that carboard box under that rock. After all, nothing that affects them affects us right

 

 

Are religious dictatorships 'fascist'?

A theocratic dictatorship might be a more apt description. As Mussolini said "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." Under Islam (with obvious exceptions of course) there doesn't seem to be room for anything other than Islam.

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Hmm. All this and I can only think of Brunei.

 

An Islamic country that could only be described as a "Benevelont Dictatorship"

 

Truly. The Sultan's word IS LAW! (Maybe an over-exaggeration. But if he said "Behead that man" then someone is no longer going to have to worry about dandruff)

 

No problems with any of that. Let's just say that "The man behind" is more important than the ideals.

 

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The Islamic world needs another Kemal Attaturk.

 

fixed

 

Actually, if you spend some time reading all those books in the university library, you'd know that Kemalist politics would be regressive if applied to the West.

 

The world does not need Kemal Attaturk. Just the Islamic world and a few highly fundamentalist Christian countries like Uganda.

 

 

 

You need to stop thinking in black/white etc.

 

Attaturk was a man very much of his time and context. Yet for his time and his context he was truly revolutionary.

 

He was a man of extraordinary courage, conviction, faith and humilty. In short he was one of those rare individuals that was able to articulate a vision that was based in reason and respect. What would he say to day about the state of things?

 

Thats what we need. People who have a vision based in respect for others and respect for reason and who can articulate that vision and inspire others around them to be better.

 

So yes . . . the world needs more people like that.

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The Islamic world needs another Kemal Attaturk.

 

fixed

 

Actually, if you spend some time reading all those books in the university library, you'd know that Kemalist politics would be regressive if applied to the West.

 

The world does not need Kemal Attaturk. Just the Islamic world and a few highly fundamentalist Christian countries like Uganda.

 

 

 

You need to stop thinking in black/white etc.

 

Attaturk was a man very much of his time and context. Yet for his time and his context he was truly revolutionary.

 

He was a man of extraordinary courage, conviction, faith and humilty. In short he was one of those rare individuals that was able to articulate a vision that was based in reason and respect. What would he say to day about the state of things?

 

Thats what we need. People who have a vision based in respect for others and respect for reason and who can articulate that vision and inspire others around them to be better.

 

So yes . . . the world needs more people like that.

 

And you need to stop having your head in the clouds.

 

You can't separate only the imagined generalised qualities of a man or an idea and dismiss the bad specifics you don't like.

 

When I say Kemal Attaturk, I mean Kemal Attaturk, not just the best romanticised "noble savage" parts of him. I mean him, the whole man, warts and all.

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Take the glowing praise of Ataturk with a grain of salt - remember it's effectively illegal to talk smack about him in Turkey, so some sources are surely contaminated.

 

Not that he wasn't a godsend for Ottoman Turkey, but yeah.

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Take the glowing praise of Ataturk with a grain of salt - remember it's effectively illegal to talk smack about him in Turkey, so some sources are surely contaminated.

Yeah, but history is pretty clear on his part in the genocide of Armenians.

 

No matter how hard modern Turkey tries to excoriate that part of their history, it's there and, to the extent of ethnic cleansing, ongoing.

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shits getting real

 

In the coastal city of Alexandria, some 10,000 opponents of Morsi gathered in the centre of the country's second largest metropolis. They chanted slogans against the leader and his Islamic fundamentalist group, the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

The protests were dubbed The Last Warning by organisers amid rising anger over the draft charter and decrees issued by Morsi giving himself sweeping powers that placed him above judicial oversight. Morsi called for a nationwide referendum on the draft constitution on December 15.

 

"This is the last warning before we lay siege to the presidential palace," said Mahmoud Hashim, a 21-year-old student from the city of Suez on the Red Sea. "We want the presidential decrees cancelled."

 

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world...i-1226530131512

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