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I was wondering what the hell i would do about paying the electricity bill for my avarice of keeping a PC and monitor on when one day when i noticed the electricity prices were spiking and the cost was about to go up around the country to cope with the requirement to properly operate the utility and streamline it by eventually raising the price until it returns a profit as user pay. Obviously when houses are not in town limits and not suburban the distance between each connection is thousands of dollars to service p/year not e.g. $1200 - $1500 so it cannot ever logically return a profit in economics , at least not until you pay more than it costs.

 

Not only was the cost immense but of luck i ran into solar and started to learn there were (anything except as usual) cheap ways of tacking on a bit of extra power.

 

The dumbest idea was looking at the electronics stores and particularly those zippy little solar charger boards, they are way overpriced and as it happens effectively solar is a soviet derived technology of later the Chinese took to manufacturing it and wind turbines.

 

Having had some experience of IC's and complex circuitry along with 27Mhz SSB and 477Mhz and modulators and filters in my teens i decided to go back to the drawing board and learn it all again.

 

Not actually needed but it helps.

 

Eventually what it comes down to is hundreds of hours of simply finding components whether basic system parts or the whole set as a power system.

 

Here's what i got it down to in finding whats available. A set of various pieces from either ebay or alibaba trade deals site.

 

Finally, Hybrid(solar and wind controller) is the only sensible solution because battery banks no matter how large or tiny should be kept above at least 85% full and preferred above 90% full to give the battery long life, this means having enough batteries as much enough directly deflected power being produced for consumption.

 

It's a little fast and grubby aberration at points but it is the core guts of what is available. And making it cheap is DIY if you can weld and do motor mechanics and vehicle electrics.

 

Start at PART2

http://wild-canidae-conservation-forum.net...tic%29PART2.pdf

 

PART3

http://wild-canidae-conservation-forum.net...ower-system.pdf

 

The article is part of an info site i slung together to about Dingo extinction.

http://wild-canidae-conservation-forum.netne.net/

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WTF does this have to do with Dingoes?

No idea. it almost seems like spam but I can't figure if it needs reporting or not, especially considering the OP appears to have filled out his profile etc. Unless it's a hijacked account?

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WTF does this have to do with Dingoes?

That would be hard to pick, Actually, no-one likes them for most because they are a noxious pest but now almost on the preserved species list.

Now ... How does that have to do with this , it's incidental to the problem that alike using a caravan and 12v power supply inverters solar wind hybrid e.t.c. , farms and farmers (which happen to be the most bothered by dingoes and go looking for a solution) and dingoes and RAPS(Remote Area Power System) are all commonly found in the same place. Essentially to live outside of a suburb requires getting power from somewhere and it isn't by paying $100,000 by one household for 10Km of electricity line to one house(too parasitic economically and is quite subtly that only beyond town limits).

 

Anyhow, i've been looking at all the deals from DIY small to "F.O.B. and Exw" international trade finding it's almost here in Australia as competitive with the grid at 6Kw 50% solar - 50% win hybrid.

Batteries in Australia cost around $2 an AH(ampere hour). By the same point an ordinary standard mean of size of Australian house starts at 6Kw and with a family requires 10Kw for effective system size safety(32 x 12v batteries to 40 x 12v batteries min. size 200ah).

 

I've also found i can import and transport 5 batteries for a small 12v rated power system "F.O.B. Exw and Sea Cargo to port" (converting 12vdc to 240vac) cheaper than buying them from here and much larger and better quality.

 

I also consider that the Part2 system can run my machine and fry eggs and bacon in the electric fry pan with only two batteries(200ah) system, at least while it's daylight.

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Probably spam, but it is funny. The syntax almost seems as if translated from another language. I love the reply to the question about how it relates to dingoes. I'll quote the above post separately, to see if a chatterbot or something will spew some more fine canned meat product.

 

 

 

WTF does this have to do with Dingoes?

That would be hard to pick, Actually, no-one likes them for most because they are a noxious pest but now almost on the preserved species list.

Now ... How does that have to do with this , it's incidental to the problem that alike using a caravan and 12v power supply inverters solar wind hybrid e.t.c. , farms and farmers (which happen to be the most bothered by dingoes and go looking for a solution) and dingoes and RAPS(Remote Area Power System) are all commonly found in the same place. Essentially to live outside of a suburb requires getting power from somewhere and it isn't by paying $100,000 by one household for 10Km of electricity line to one house(too parasitic economically and is quite subtly that only beyond town limits).

 

Anyhow, i've been looking at all the deals from DIY small to "F.O.B. and Exw" international trade finding it's almost here in Australia as competitive with the grid at 6Kw 50% solar - 50% win hybrid.

Batteries in Australia cost around $2 an AH(ampere hour). By the same point an ordinary standard mean of size of Australian house starts at 6Kw and with a family requires 10Kw for effective system size safety(32 x 12v batteries to 40 x 12v batteries min. size 200ah).

 

I've also found i can import and transport 5 batteries for a small 12v rated power system "F.O.B. Exw and Sea Cargo to port" (converting 12vdc to 240vac) cheaper than buying them from here and much larger and better quality.

 

I also consider that the Part2 system can run my machine and fry eggs and bacon in the electric fry pan with only two batteries(200ah) system, at least while it's daylight.

 

Please tell me more! Are you selling these systems? Would you like my credit card numbers?

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Probably spam, but it is funny. The syntax almost seems as if translated from another language. I love the reply to the question about how it relates to dingoes. I'll quote the above post separately, to see if a chatterbot or something will spew some more fine canned meat product.

 

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Please tell me more! Are you selling these systems? Would you like my credit card numbers?

You didn't read either the news about NSW electricity privatisation and price rises or about why those rises are required and ongoing neither again about green energy issues, or the point that farmers are the ones who will need 1st world lifestyle with their electricity or for the point again see that site is where farmers will also go to for reference to view the issue about noxious pests such as foxes and dingoes.

 

People in rural areas were hit with a $400 rise p/year and that's only the beginning where the wool and meat trade cost money to operate.

 

For people such as farmers and people whom live out of town to understand they have available options for electricity requires them to have an understanding of both pricing and aquirtability,

so obviously i don't want your credit card details and am not selling them and there is no reference anywhere to such assistance so you have no reason to believe it is a commercial site.

 

Any more anti statement to cause ignorance from you will not help the rural sector to stay afloat economically so if you cease the sabotage of this thread and information it would be appreciated by many people.

Why not have also asked why the site contains links and information to primary production guard animals too and criticise that, you need to buy guard dogs and Llamas, they're not free either!

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Probably spam, but it is funny. The syntax almost seems as if translated from another language. I love the reply to the question about how it relates to dingoes. I'll quote the above post separately, to see if a chatterbot or something will spew some more fine canned meat product.

 

...

 

Please tell me more! Are you selling these systems? Would you like my credit card numbers?

You didn't read either the news about NSW electricity privatisation and price rises or about why those rises are required and ongoing neither again about green energy issues, or the point that farmers are the ones who will need 1st world lifestyle with their electricity or for the point again see that site is where farmers will also go to for reference to view the issue about noxious pests such as foxes and dingoes.

 

People in rural areas were hit with a $400 rise p/year and that's only the beginning where the wool and meat trade cost money to operate.

 

For people such as farmers and people whom live out of town to understand they have available options for electricity requires them to have an understanding of both pricing and aquirtability,

so obviously i don't want your credit card details and am not selling them and there is no reference anywhere to such assistance so you have no reason to believe it is a commercial site.

 

Any more anti statement to cause ignorance from you will not help the rural sector to stay afloat economically so if you cease the sabotage of this thread and information it would be appreciated by many people.

Why not have also asked why the site contains links and information to primary production guard animals too and criticise that, you need to buy guard dogs and Llamas, they're not free either!

 

Now you're making things up. According to Lord Google, 'aquirtability' isn't even a real word - Link

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Here is my disclaimer quote from the page, the page itself conforms to the rules of the sites as i discussed with the host (The information is to assist DIY for EVERYTHING , i don't agentise or profit a tiny cent)...

..."This information is here courtesy of "somewhere to start" to find an off grid power system package.

YOU JUST WOULDN'T FIND IT, OR GUESS IT EITHER (also, horizontal wind turbines are the only less expensive generator systems)

 

I AM NOT AN AGENT AND, NEITHER GET A CENT FROM THIS , IT'S SO UNFAIR TO NOT KNOW THIS OR FIND THIS INFORMATION, AFTER YOU LOOK AT MANY OTHER OFFERS

(note: trade offers change rapidly within days potentially, minimum order quantities even with giant equipment, and customs, freight, handling, insurance and management charges/tariffs)."...

 

 

I'll simply assume you have never lived outside of a city, and have no idea or comprehension of how a farm actually operates, they are not the Beverly Hillbillies, they are often tertiary trained degree or diploma level and management qualified people in agriculture as far back as the 1930's. Where i came from was only one hundred meters away from living with a rifle against the wall of my own bedroom when i was a child, many houses i lived around often had shotguns sitting around where anyone was actuallly at in the premises and often moved with them from room to room, so i am to assume you don't realise that things such as "wind generators" for charging batteries have been around for long before solar pv was ever considered existant as a commercial industry on offer to any country perhaps inclusive the Soviets(the creators of Solar) themselves.

 

Apart from being totally aware of then remoteness of living some places, there is also how much can be afforded to operate appliances such as the recent computer i use, a small e-machine which uses a tiny quantity of power compared to a standard desktop, as much LCD uses far less than the old gas burner type screens 1024 x 768 screens that are as bad as a tube television.

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