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so, pricing an upgrade of a PC from a Phenom II X4 955,

Mother board is an Asrock 890 and will support FX chips. right up to the FX-8350. which is the only piledriver it supports.

thats great, we want piledriver over Bulldozer.

 

off I go to Capital square.

 

4 shops later (out of 5 still open)

best is order one in for early next month.

worst is the 2 suppliers only supply FM socket chips.

 

WTF.

 

so, to the reason for this thread.

 

Has AMD stopped bothering? intel won desktop, They got this round of consol wrapped up. do we even try to sell in this market?

even if price was good for cheep systems, why can I not get a current FX chip? the 81xx is available but not the 83xx.

Is there a whisper of AMD changing it's business model and are starving supply chains?

 

I already know my next build will want a 5GHz oct core. because it's cool. and hot. and because. now I'm seeing signs I will not get a none-APU chip in Australia. or even an Athlon for the FM2 socket let alone AM3+.

 

:(

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AMD marketing in Australia consists of about 1 guy - even in their enterprise market. That said, I've never found just walking into a computer store and expecting them to have what i want to be the best approach, I'd rather order it online and go in and pick it up, or order it from over east and ship it across.

 

In my experience the AMD stuff is still around, MSY, PCCG etc. all stock it. I think smaller stores may be intel only so they don't have to hold so much stock for warranty etc.

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I was on a fact finding tour. finding what wa sin stock and what could be ordered.

 

they have shelves of any intel i processor common in australia. 3220, 3470, 3570 & K, 3770. haswell and everything. just no AMD of note (3 sempron 1xx and 2 fx-6x00) . so If I wanted a comparative intel i could just walk in off the street.

 

but to not be able to order as one of their supplier did not carry AM3 socket stock and the other had no FX-83xx just 81xx.

 

Maybe AMD only has 1 marketing person per 30million people in a country.

 

1 shop did have the new NZXT HAVIK 140, which PCCG only got back this week so atleast I could tick that box for wanted and available. may still go with a NH12S (or P)

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I have noticed the same thing in NZ over the last 24 months, it seems to be getting harder and harder to purchase any AMD product that is not a GPU.

FMX CPU's and Mobo's are out of stock at most of my suppliers and good luck finding an AMD laptop.

They have some really good products atm but I can't buy them...

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I guess the circumstances where AMD would outweigh Intel for CPU performance on a desktop, is so specialist, they'd just assume you'd order; as with most specialist orders.

There isnt much reason to go AMD for the average user\gamer....

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Not too much variety in the Capital Square stores. Mostly Intel gear around. MSY usually have AMD CPUs in stock (and for cheaper prices too).

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I was thinking as others have: why not just go with MSY? Capitol square isn't that far from the Ultimo branch of MSY and according to the website they have the FX-8350 in stock right now for $232.

 

The stores may be a bit bare-bones, but their website is actually really good for knowing what they have before you spend the time to go in.

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Got the chip from ARC Chatto. in stock at $234.

 

My rant was about how one of the main places in Chinatown (that I know of) with 3 main stores and at least 2 minor stores could not have anything but Intel. even, it seems, at the supplier level.

 

Capitol square is <5mins from where I work while Ultimo often has wait times longer than the walk. (as was my experience a couple years ago) and loyalty at capitol square often gets a few more dollars chopped.

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Got the chip from ARC Chatto. in stock at $234.

 

My rant was about how one of the main places in Chinatown (that I know of) with 3 main stores and at least 2 minor stores could not have anything but Intel. even, it seems, at the supplier level.

 

Capitol square is <5mins from where I work while Ultimo often has wait times longer than the walk. (as was my experience a couple years ago) and loyalty at capitol square often gets a few more dollars chopped.

Sorry cat, it's simple... stock what sells.

 

No point in stocking 10 of every item when you know from past experience that you will end up with the same boxes cluttering your shelves a year later.

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Got the chip from ARC Chatto. in stock at $234.

 

My rant was about how one of the main places in Chinatown (that I know of) with 3 main stores and at least 2 minor stores could not have anything but Intel. even, it seems, at the supplier level.

 

Capitol square is <5mins from where I work while Ultimo often has wait times longer than the walk. (as was my experience a couple years ago) and loyalty at capitol square often gets a few more dollars chopped.

Sorry cat, it's simple... stock what sells.

 

No point in stocking 10 of every item when you know from past experience that you will end up with the same boxes cluttering your shelves a year later.

 

10? they sold all their old AMD stock from a year ago, they have no 8100 chips left. they also have no current stock but...

 

what's the suppliers excuse?

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10? they sold all their old AMD stock from a year ago, they have no 8100 chips left. they also have no current stock but...

 

what's the suppliers excuse?

 

warehouse space costs money, its not worth them stocking a really low volume product, when a significantly higher volume product that takes the same storage space can make them more money. Yes it reduces competition, and lowers variety of product available to the end user, but at the end of the day, you have to realise they are a business, and there operating to make a profit, and the greed in people to always want and need more profit every year only exacerbates things like this, if that makes sense?

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Also I doubt the supplier actually didnt have any AMD chips.

I'd bet for one sale, of one chip you dont wanna stock (so wont get the bulk discounts) why bother?

 

and its more polite to your face than saying "Nah, you're not worth our time"

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I was shown the webinterface to the suppliers stock, there were no FX-83xx to order. only FM2 chips and >5 FX-9350 at $699.

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Fair enough, I'd believe the supplier they had didnt have any too then.

Doesnt mean its out of stock at all suppliers, just their usual one.

 

I still stand by my oppinion that anyone who wants an AMD chip over Intel at the moment, must have a VERY specialised use in mind, and as such would probably order from wherever; hardly important to be in stock at "your local",

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Overall, I do think that the AM3+ is dying very slowly. If anything, I do feel that AMD should concentrate on FM2 given how motherboard makers are actually putting more effort in FM2 instead of AM3.

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Overall, I do think that the AM3+ is dying very slowly. If anything, I do feel that AMD should concentrate on FM2 given how motherboard makers are actually putting more effort in FM2 instead of AM3.

That may already be happening...

 

It is rumoured that the FX chips have disappeared from AMD's roadmap altogether. AMD has to concentrate on what makes them money (APU's, and now the Xbox One and PS4 chips), and I wouldn't be surprised if FX was let go. The AM3(+) platform itself has not been updated in years, with FX chips being mated with archaic chipsets designed for the Phenom and Phenom II. The chipsets used with FM2 (and upcoming FM2+ CPU's) are much newer, and feature competitive with the competition

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