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both political parties need to express their views better

 

are they for or against something? they need to put their point across, not waffle on about small points

They're agile with the truth. As our hapless PM might say.

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Still think Donkey's can do a better job at running this country.

 

Eeyore! Eey Ore! Eey Oreways says that!

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So apart from Hansen ( and anecdotal, but I've not physically spoken with anyone here who likes or voted for her ;) ) what makes you think QLD is

any different ? You just jealous we have sunshine and cleaner air and can swim without incurring frostbite in winter is all.

What makes me think QLD is any different?

 

I did a back of the envelope calculation grouping what I call the main loony parties together (Hansen, Palmer, Family First, Fred Nile, Rise Up, etc).

 

The state that has the lowest percentage vote for loonies is the ACT at around 3%, NSW & VIC are at 8% and 9% respectively and at the top is QLD which is over 13%.

 

Personally I blame Victoria for this because a truck load of our old folks retire to Queensland to loose their marbles and that obviously has an impact on who that state votes for.

 

This and all those years of Joe makes me think Queensland is different.

 

Fred Nile. Fuck ! I'd managed to forget him ;)

 

Thing is, these "loonies" spring up as a reflex to what you consider ' regular ' politics . So, well, as you say Victoria et al are responsible for them.

And don't be blaming the old folk ! That family First dude doesn't look that old. Actually given that I'm just ignoring Nile's existance, Katter is

probably the old codger today. And he's good fun imo :P As for the old folk up here, most of them still think the sun shines out of Johnny's arse.

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Fred Nile is just representative of 1960s fuddie-duddies.

No doubt one day we'll have The Aethiest PC Party to represent 2020s fuddie-duddies.

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favourite smh letter today :

 

"There has never been a more exciting time to be a Governor-General."

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excuse my pedantry, but please adjust your spell checker to local

 

there is no "center" in australia

 

 

sadly our views on where centre is, and who's "right" in leanings are incompatible

if the liberals persist is wanting to run the economy and at the same time neglect or actively stymie "progressive" social and environmental views, they are dead meat

 

having demonstrated how incompetent their fiscal ideas appear to the voters, they aren't winning any friends by disenfranchising the majority who see marriage equality as "appropriate"

either they learn to relax their expectations on very conservative social and environmental views, or give up on getting support from people who see these as just as important as "doing business"

I think this election was waay more about the money than the marriage thingy, at least towards the final days. The marriage situ will eventually be

sorted in favour of a broader, fairer outlook for all folk, imo, that's just inevitable. Even the most diehard rightwinger will see that.;)

 

But the money, and what is being seen as money lost to the politicians for their ineffective duties as pollies and of course the fucking great retirement

scheme we allowed, is going to be much harder to sort. That and the various tax breaks for corporate business etc.

Got to find the money from somewhere ... I think most people decided the Coalition couldn't keep the roof over their heads and the food on the table.

 

It's holiday season up here. Lots of Vics. and NSW people, lots of them. Walked through town this arvo to see all the eateries and Coles doing a roaring

trade, but on average the other retailers were fairly empty. Except for places like Jay jay's that had a rack of tops out the front " 2 for $5.00 !"

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OK, I'll go for that. But on the proviso that they get no vote at all unless they've moved away from mummy & daddy and are self-supporting, working and paying tax.

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OK, I'll go for that. But on the proviso that they get no vote at all unless they've moved away from mummy & daddy and are self-supporting, working and paying tax.

Woo I'm in!

 

*votes Greens*

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OK, I'll go for that. But on the proviso that they get no vote at all unless they've moved away from mummy & daddy and are self-supporting, working and paying tax.

I've a better idea.

 

You get a vote when you pay net tax.

 

And you keep it forever.

 

Your vote value increases relative to the average Australian tax contribution.

 

That seems fair to me - those that contribute most, get more reward. Plus it keeps Greens voters out of the way.

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PMSL.

I'd have gone a simpler system. Just make the Greens illegal under the constitution.

A somewhat totalitarian measure but hey, they'd do the same to the rest of us if they got to run the place.

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PMSL.

I'd have gone a simpler system. Just make the Greens illegal under the constitution.

A somewhat totalitarian measure but hey, they'd do the same to the rest of us if they got to run the place.

Wouldn't we just have to enforce existing human rights legislation to get rid of the fuckers?

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That seems fair to me - those that contribute most, get more reward. Plus it keeps Greens voters out of the way.

Step 1: Be filthy rich

Step 2: Pay excessive tax to control both upper and lower houses

Step 3: Implement policies to get your tax back plus a few billion more

Step 4: Leave the country before it crumbles

Step 5: Success!

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That seems fair to me - those that contribute most, get more reward. Plus it keeps Greens voters out of the way.

Step 1: Be filthy rich

Step 2: Pay excessive tax to control both upper and lower houses

Step 3: Implement policies to get your tax back plus a few billion more

Step 4: Leave the country before it crumbles

Step 5: Success!

As opposed to

1. Be filthy poor

2. Complain about people who work

3. Demand tax breaks and handouts

4. Force people who work to leave the country due to excessive taxation.

5. Wonder where socialism went wrong as you look up at the rim of the pit where a soldier stands with his rifle pointed at you and hundreds of others.

 

Each ideology has it's own problems. Capitalism works. It's unexciting because it's not perfect. Trying to promote it is like trying to get someone excited about the fact that the sun will rise in the morning.

 

Socialism is great room until you run out of other people's money and can't afford power to your hospitals.

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Not even the Greens have socialist policies that go that far. Their leader is a doctor, I'm sure he's come to know the higher tax brackets quite well.

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Not even the Greens have socialist policies that go that far. Their leader is a doctor, I'm sure he's come to know the higher tax brackets quite well.

 

I'm pretty sure Lenin didn't start his revolution with thoughts of what Stalin would do.

Just as I am sure Chavez didn't start his rule expecting the army in the street preventing people killing each other over scraps of food.

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both political parties need to express their views better

are they for or against something? they need to put their point across, not waffle on about small points

They're agile with the truth. As our hapless PM might say.

Yup, and look where we are now

They use weesal words and then wonder why we don't trust them

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I wonder if the GG can step in and disband something as i see the spanner is still in the works. Yay for Donkey time.

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So thus far... primary vote wise:

Coalition: 42.1 and going up, their fourth-worst result since 1949. 0.1 more and it's the 5th worst.

Labor: 34.9 and going down, their second-worst result since 1949.

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so thus far : both major parties on the collective nose

 

and news to hand - cory bernardi "threatens" to form break away right wing rabid loony party

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-cory-bernardi-in-talks-to-break-away-from-malcolm-turnbulls-liberal-party-20160706-gpzqak.html

 

except they'll probably call it something less appropriate

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so thus far : both major parties on the collective nose

 

and news to hand - cory bernardi "threatens" to form break away right wing rabid loony party

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-cory-bernardi-in-talks-to-break-away-from-malcolm-turnbulls-liberal-party-20160706-gpzqak.html

 

except they'll probably call it something less appropriate

 

Because "The Greens" is already taken?

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Because "The Greens" is already taken?

 

 

how about "the ultraviolets" ?

 

even further away from red than blue

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Cory is the Right-White-Knight charging in to save the conservative day !!

 

I suppose he's young and fit enough to keep up the fight and eventually become the next leader of the Libs.

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Cory is the Right-White-Knight charging in to save the conservative day !!

 

I suppose he's young and fit enough to keep up the fight and eventually become the next leader of the Libs.

 

He's not exactly white. Well... not totally.

 

His grandma was Aboriginal enough to be listed as "native" on her birth certificate.

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