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Yeah,

 

What's on in Canberra doesn't show anything either - bit of a mystery.

 

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And the dodgy crap continues

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If, for example, Labor had felt able to ask questions in Parliament that were coal related, it might well have asked about the $4 million the Government committed to a feasibility study on the proposed Collinsville power station in Queensland that is so dear to the hearts of Queensland MPs and Barnaby Joyce and Matt Canavan.

In the scheme of things, $4 million (plus $2 million for a separate energy project nearby) isn't a huge amount of money for a Government. But it does seem extraordinary that money is going direct to the company proposing the power station.

It's not just that it isn't being put out to tender by the Government, but that the results of the study will be delivered to the proponents, not the Government.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-22/in-politics-the-question-is-just-as-important-as-the-context/11989216

They really don't give a damn do they!

How good is that?

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12 minutes ago, aliali said:

And the dodgy crap continues

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-22/in-politics-the-question-is-just-as-important-as-the-context/11989216

They really don't give a damn do they!

How good is that?

 

Heh.

 

Actually heard a pollie, forget who, on radio the other day trying to justify that - it was quite the dance...

 

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PMSL... that story is dated November 2007.

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1 hour ago, Rybags said:

PMSL... that story is dated November 2007.

 

Like I keep saying..................people have very short memories.

That was when Turnbull had the Environment portfolio under Howard.

 

They carry on about Russia and sportrorts etc today...............they didn't say much then!

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-23/labor-backs-2050-global-carbon-emissions-targets/11991912

 

" Mr Albanese is opposed to government investment in new brown-coal ventures — the thermal product used for coal-fired power stations.

But under questioning by Insiders host David Speers, he agreed there was still likely to be coal mining in Australia post-2050.

"I suspect we will," Mr Albanese said.

"[The target is] net, that's the point."

He argued there was no replacement for metallurgical coal, which is used to make steel and is a major export out of Queensland.

The Labor leader also agreed thermal — or brown — coal mining for export could continue under the commitment.

"Yes, we could," he said.

"It will be determined by global action."

The Australian coal sector employs more than 50,000 people.

Mr Albanese said exported coal was not counted in Australia's greenhouse gas budget. ..."

 

more in the link.

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28 minutes ago, Jeruselem said:

Albo is hedging an each way bet

Labor should be about the people and the health of the Australian workforce ...

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23 minutes ago, eveln said:

Labor should be about the people and the health of the Australian workforce ...

 

Lib and Lab are beholden to the mining interests these days, Labour don't wander into a parliament with coal though

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1 hour ago, Jeruselem said:

 

Lib and Lab are beholden to the mining interests these days, Labour don't wander into a parliament with coal though

 

Labor doesn't give a shit about workers.............especially the ones in coal!

It only cares about votes.......................just like all pollies do.

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3 hours ago, Jeruselem said:

 

Lib and Lab are beholden to the mining interests these days,

That's always been the case though. It's not a " these days"  issue at all .

These days the issue is with the looting of the water and polluting of the area generally and the long term destruction that apparently the mining companies will make all better once they're done ...

 

3 hours ago, Jeruselem said:

 

Labour don't wander into a parliament with coal though

Well no, they didn't , and I'd suggest the guy that did was not thinking too clearly due to baby-brain and all the other domestic issues he'd created for hisself ... :P

But at t he same time Labor have not always been clear about their thought and intentions ... barring of course our own infamous Premier ... she wants the mines for the jobs ... just hope the jobs all go to people already here and waiting for them and not fly-ins from overseas.

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3 hours ago, LogicprObe said:

Labor [...] only cares about votes.......................just like all pollies do.

 

Not quite.  All pollies do have to care about votes - if they don't win, they can't do anything.  Some few do actually want to achieve something, though, and a few of those few actually want to help people!  At least, when they start out.  It's incredibly easy to be seduced by truckloads of money, and very hard to retain your identity as one of the lads when you don a thousand-dollar suit to get driven to work every day.

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18 hours ago, Cybes said:

 

Not quite.  All pollies do have to care about votes - if they don't win, they can't do anything.  Some few do actually want to achieve something, though, and a few of those few actually want to help people!  At least, when they start out.  It's incredibly easy to be seduced by truckloads of money, and very hard to retain your identity as one of the lads when you don a thousand-dollar suit to get driven to work every day.

 

Or when the muck raking machine of your own party practically blackmail you into towing the line. 

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The marquis was gone on Monday, but still NFI what the event was.

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4 hours ago, Rybags said:

The marquis was gone on Monday, but still NFI what the event was.

 

Not to worry..............I'm sure it was an efficient use of taxpayers' money.

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9 minutes ago, Jeruselem said:

Victoria stops dodgy energy company bait-and-switch tactics from your (non)favorite energy company. Up here in the NT, we don't exactly have much choice anyway.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-28/victorias-energy-prices-contracts-to-be-fairer-under-new-rules/12010528

 

The single stupidest thing the government has ever done was privatising energy.

 

In the NT no, you get little choice, nor currently does WA but in SA for example it is open season, like putting a fox in with the chickens.

 

Now power in WA is by no means cheap but it is still less expensive than SA where we have several companies in so-called competition - personally I cannot see any difference between them.

 

SA has led in getting rid of coal-fired power, and is leading in renewables as well. They probably are not making a big enough deal of that but demolishing the Port Augusta power stations, which ran for decades on brown coal - horrible stuff, was a powerful message that went largely un-noticed. Now we are probably the cleanest state for power, Tassie might edge us out with hydro but coal abounds elsewhere. Torrens island is natural gas, again not perfect but far better than coal. Port Augusta meanwhile is undergoing a quiet renaissance in power. The new solar farm is far from dead and windmills are sprouting like Salvation Jane along the foothills.

 

Boy do we pay for it though.

 

The promise is that once we are transitioned totally to renewable the bills will stabilise or even fall. That kind of assumes the State does not go bankrupt in the process...

 

That is not a throwaway comment. The original ETSA that was government owned until 1999 still exists and most if not all Government agencies buy power from them, but they are as expensive as the rest - ie. deep gouging.

 

Something is going to have to change, people plain and simply cannot afford the usurious power bills.

 

There are some aspects of daily life that simply should not be in private hands, energy is one of them.

 

Cheers

 

 

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56 minutes ago, chrisg said:

There are some aspects of daily life that simply should not be in private hands, energy is one of them. 

 

Water is another. WTeverlovingF were those blithering idiots thinking?

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Utterly agree, blinker focused on short term book balancing.

 

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wait till they privatise oxygen

 

it can't be long now

 

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Need directors for your dodgy tax avoiding shell corporation? Well, just make up some names and you'll be fine because they don't check anyway because ASIC can't be bothered anyway

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-28/homer-simpson-could-be-installed-as-australian-company-director/12010646?section=politics

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3 hours ago, Jeruselem said:

Need directors for your dodgy tax avoiding shell corporation? Well, just make up some names and you'll be fine because they don't check anyway because ASIC can't be bothered anyway

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-28/homer-simpson-could-be-installed-as-australian-company-director/12010646?section=politics

 

That's always been the case.

As long as you pay your fees to ASIC, they don't do or check anything.

 

Both sides have talked about tightening this up but none has.....................you would think it would require the same process as opening a bank account at least!

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3 hours ago, scruffy1 said:

wait till they privatise oxygen

 

it can't be long now

 

 

You jest, but such a thing is near certain with any pressurised off-planet colony. (Beezos' cylinders, Musk's Mars, and NASA's moon to name but three)

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That.. could lead to some impressively dictatorial SF possibilities that I really do not want to explore IRL...

 

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