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Give me your body
Give me your body body
Give me your body
Don't talk don't talk don't talk don't talk
Baby don't talk
Body language
Body language
Body language

Give me your body
Just give me, yeah, your body
Give me, yeah, your body
Don't talk
Body language huh huh
Body language
Body language

 

Written by Freddie Mecury.

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Give me your body

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Written by Freddie Mecury.

Still 5 less writers and 3 less producers required.

 

But I can't imagine anyone - Including the members of Queen - considering it one of their lyrical masterpieces

And if you judge a song just by lyrics, then there's a lot of great composers that are probably feeling left out.

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Give me your body

...

Written by Freddie Mecury.

Still 5 less writers and 3 less producers required.

 

But I can't imagine anyone - Including the members of Queen - considering it one of their lyrical masterpieces

And if you judge a song just by lyrics, then there's a lot of great composers that are probably feeling left out.

 

 

A crap song is a crap song, regardless of the number of writers / producers. I don't think the image posted above had any merit and neither does the comment 'Still 5 less writers and 3 less producers required.' as it is irrelevant, or should we rank songs by the amount of singers or musicians being used?

 

With Freddie Mecury they've released 165 songs, many of them are crap or average and as a big fan of theirs I'm very familiar with their work. That is how I was able to reference Body Language... shudder.

 

I do agree there is more to a song than lyrics, there is a bloody lot more to a song I'd guess.

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Give me your body

Give me your body body

Give me your body

Don't talk don't talk don't talk don't talk

Baby don't talk

Body language

Body language

Body language

 

Give me your body

Just give me, yeah, your body

Give me, yeah, your body

Don't talk

Body language huh huh

Body language

Body language

 

Written by Freddie Mecury.

I think if you wanted to make your point valid you'd also have supply the other example, that would be a modern song written by 6 people with 4 producers that is as meaningful as Bohemian Rhapsody.

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I think if you wanted to make your point valid you'd also have supply the other example, that would be a modern song written by 6 people with 4 producers that is as meaningful as Bohemian Rhapsody.

 

 

You obviously missed my point, my point was shit music is shit music, number of contributing artists is irrelevant. An orchestra or an opera are examples of having a lot of people involved, doesn't dictate whether it is good or not. Modern or not, it is irrelevant.

 

We could also state Male vs Female for those songs, or Hetrosexual versus Homosexual, or parent vs non parent. They would be just as irrelevant.

But I will also play along, I am a Adele fan so here:

 

I heard that you're settled down

That you found a girl and you're married now

I heard that your dreams came true

Guess she gave you things I didn't give to you

Old friend, why are you so shy?

Ain't like you to hold back or hide from the light

I hate to turn up out of the blue, uninvited

But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it

I had hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded

That for me, it isn't over

Never mind, I'll find someone like you

I wish nothing but the best for you, too

Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead

You know how the time flies

Only yesterday was the time of our lives

We were born and raised in a summer haze

Bound by the surprise of our glory days

I hate to turn up out of the blue, uninvited

But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it

I had hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded

That for me, it isn't over

Never mind, I'll find someone like you

I wish nothing but the best for you, too

Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead, yeah

Nothing compares, no worries or cares

Regrets and mistakes, they're memories made

Who would have known how bittersweet this would taste?

Never mind, I'll find someone like you

I wish nothing but the best for you

Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead

Never mind, I'll find someone like you

I wish nothing but the best for you, too

Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead

Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead

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With Freddie Mercury they've released 165 songs, many of them are crap or average and as a big fan of theirs I'm very familiar with their work.

o.O "big fan" ... "crap or average"

 

Might be just me, but I think unless you consider a band to hit above average, you aren't a fan of the band - just a few of their tunes.

 

Also, I'd be interested to know your definition of "classic". Since you've dismissed out of hand those things history remembers fondly, as well as those popular in their own time.

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Modern day media is a reflection of what people want. I'm not sure which came first; marketing telling us what we want, or us telling marketing what we want - but it's a reflection of what we want.

The majority of us want crap :)

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With Freddie Mercury they've released 165 songs, many of them are crap or average and as a big fan of theirs I'm very familiar with their work.

o.O "big fan" ... "crap or average"

 

Might be just me, but I think unless you consider a band to hit above average, you aren't a fan of the band - just a few of their tunes.

 

Also, I'd be interested to know your definition of "classic". Since you've dismissed out of hand those things history remembers fondly, as well as those popular in their own time.

 

 

 

I said many not most, the large selection of purchased albums and regular listening to and enjoying of them I think states I am a fan. Doesn't mean they haven't done crap songs mixed in there. Or are you one of those people who think their favourite band/artist can do no wrong?

 

What are you talking about classic? If that comment was address to me you should re-read my posts as I've not dismissed any 'classics', in fact if that is the case I'm suggesting you read posts more clearly before commenting in the future.

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Apologies re most/many. Of course bands can do shit songs and still be favourites.

What are you talking about classic? If that comment was address to me you should re-read my posts as I've not dismissed any 'classics', in fact if that is the case I'm suggesting you read posts more clearly before commenting in the future.

 

Of course that was addressed to you. I only quoted two people, and one of them was me. Unless you think I'm in doubt as to my own definition of something, that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. Anyway...

 

Really? Does this ring a bell?

 

Still getting airplay either as originals or covers (1970 list):

1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 13, 18, 19, 22, 24, 25

 

To which you replied: "If you think they're the real classics that came out of 1970 then I fear for your earthly soul!"

 

Looks like dismissal to me.

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Apologies re most/many. Of course bands can do shit songs and still be favourites.

What are you talking about classic? If that comment was address to me you should re-read my posts as I've not dismissed any 'classics', in fact if that is the case I'm suggesting you read posts more clearly before commenting in the future.

 

Of course that was addressed to you. I only quoted two people, and one of them was me. Unless you think I'm in doubt as to my own definition of something, that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. Anyway...

 

Really? Does this ring a bell?

 

Still getting airplay either as originals or covers (1970 list):

1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 13, 18, 19, 22, 24, 25

 

To which you replied: "If you think they're the real classics that came out of 1970 then I fear for your earthly soul!"

 

Looks like dismissal to me.

 

Cheers for the apology but you really should read posts more clearly "If you think they're the real classics that came out of 1970 then I fear for your earthly soul!" was written by I_am_banned2, not me. Embarrassing...

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Cheers for the apology but you really should read posts more clearly "If you think they're the real classics that came out of 1970 then I fear for your earthly soul!" was written by I_am_banned2, not me. Embarrassing...

...Coulda sworn you two were the same person. And I don't even have sleep dep to blame! :P

 

Apologies again, fabman.

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Yes, but the charts are, or perhaps more accurately were, a reflection of the old 45s, not of albums. Have a look at the album charts of the early 70s and you will indeed see some classic bands and superb pieces of music, just many of the long lived bands of that era did not do singles much.

 

In 1970, or 69 for that matter neither I nor any of my friends that I recall were buying singles at all.

 

The charts then were driven by television very strongly, in the UK that was the very long lived Top of the Pops.

 

Possibly what you are thinking of is that that was around the time that themed albums rose to prominence, often with very long tracks, great music but it did not fit into the 3 to 4 minute singles requirement. Perhaps the most influential band in that regard was Pink Floyd. I'm trying to recall if the Floyd had a single, I THINK they did without googling, but never bought one, did buy all their albums..

 

Cheers

 

 

That's a decent point, but the fact still remains that even during the so-called highpoint of the rock music era (late 60s through to mid 70s), what was actually popular was still mostly crap. Just like today.

 

Cheers for the apology but you really should read posts more clearly "If you think they're the real classics that came out of 1970 then I fear for your earthly soul!" was written by I_am_banned2, not me. Embarrassing...

...Coulda sworn you two were the same person. And I don't even have sleep dep to blame! :P

 

Apologies again, fabman.

 

 

Hey, apologise to me! You basically just said my lovely Haruna looks like He-Man...

 

Well, actually, they do bear some resemblance. But still.

Anyway, back on topic.

 

It also holds that there's plenty of great music being written today, but you may not find much of it in the Top 40 charts.

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Heh.

 

I noted that classics can take a degree of maturation, they can also be very personal and can wither in their own time but become recognised when performed by others. By the same token it is hardly unusual that a song or piece of music be written by a person whose body of work may be termed "classic" but who may never perform the work themselves or not have the most popular version.

 

I'm sure that many examples can be cited, my own off the cuff ones would be:

 

Most everything written by Leonard Cohen although some of his own renditions are the version best remembered and appreciated, in particular "Everbody knows" and the body of his work that was recorded by Jennifer Warnes in the album "Famous Blue Raincoat."

 

Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" his own version was great, arguably Ugly Kid Joe not only revived it but did it better.

 

Springstein's "Blinded by the Light" only a fan would recall his original, many more would know Manfred Mann Earthband's cover.

 

The list goes on, Joni Mitchell, Burt Bacharach of course, and who knew that "The Horses" performed by Daryl Braithwaite was co-written by Ricki Lee Jones?

 

Perhaps the definition of "Classic" needs expansion or if it relates to "Quality" we could go explore "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" for a better understanding :)

 

Cheers

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:)

 

Perhaps we really are getting old but every one of the 1970 list (and most of the '69) I could sing along to and are in my collection.

 

Try me on that for 2014.... um.... no...

 

The most popular songs of al time lists tell a much more accurate story and precious few make it from recent years.

 

I was listening to the radio in the car today, ABC, they played Buffalo Springfield "For What it's Worth" a confusing title because it's not in the lyrics. If I say "Stop me, what's that sound" though, you'll know the song :) The DJ made me feel REAL old by remarking that it is getting on for a 50 year old song but it's as current now as it was then and my kids love it.

 

Ah Well, Steve Stills wrote it and Neil Young was in the band and they are still performing :)

 

Cheers

Well hows that for coincidence ?

 

Just burnt this mp3 disc for my wagon two days ago..... track 057

 

 

 

 

 

001 Jimi Hendrix -Hey Joe

002 Lady - Karma

003 Ari - Up

004 Pharrel Williams - Happy

005 Christine Aguilera - CandyMan

006 Parov Stelar - Booty Swing

007 Basement Jaxx - Oh my Gosh

008 Adele - rumour has it

009 Pretenders - My Baby

010 Blondie I screwed up

011 Alice Cooper - Hell is living without you

012 Arctic Monkeys - Knee Socks

015 Spandau Ballet Lifeling

016 Depeche Mode The meaning of love

017 Steve Miller - Abracadabra

018 Soft Cell - Tainted Love

019 Thompson Twins Hold me now

020 Supertramp - It's raining again

021 Valentine Brothers - Money's too tight to mention

022 Michael Jackson - Say Say Say

023 Real Life - Send me an Angel

024 Belinda Carlisle - Circles in the sand

025 Deborah Harry - Dancing down the Moon

026 B52's 52 Girls

027 Siouxie & The Banshees - Hong Kong Garden

028 Stranglers - Something better Change

029 Kasey Chambers - Crossfire

030 Dr Feelgood - Walking the Dog

031 The Pogues - The Sunnyside of the street

032 Elvis Costello - Olivers Army

033 Be Bop Deluxe - Ships in the night

034 10cc - Good Morning Judge

035 Phil Collins - Jesus HE knows me

036 Boomtown Rats - Room 19 (Sha La La Lee)

037 Devo - Peek a Boo

038 Talking Heads - Love )building on Fire)

039 Phil Collins - Two Hearts

040 Abba - Eagle

041 Aha - I've been losing you

042 Phil Collins - Land of Confusion

043 Steve Miller Band - Take the money and run

044 Bellamy Brothers - Let your love flow

045 Four Seasons - December 63

046 Elton John & Kiki Dee - Don't go breaking my Hearts

047 Captain & Tennile - You've never done it like that

048 Dorothy Moore - Misty Blue

049 Stevie Wonder - I was made to love her

050 Arthur Conley Jnr - Sweet Soul Music

051 Diana Ross & The Supremes - The Happening

052 Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell - Your Precious Love

053 Jackie Wilson - (Your Love Keeps lifting me) Higher and Higher

054 The Young Rascals - I've been lonely too long

055 Aretha - Baby I love you

056 Five Americans - Western Union

057 Buffalo Springfield - For what it's worth

058 The Association - Windy

059 The Beatles - Penny Lane

060 The Turtles - She'd Rather

061 The Monkees - Pleasant Valley Sunday

062 Cat Stevens - Here comes my baby

063 Orleans - Still the One

064 Fleetwood Mac - Say you love me

065 John Sebastian - Welcome Back

066 Marmalde - RaDancer

067 Barry Blue - Dancing on a Saturday night

068 Robert Knight - Love on a mountain top

069 Fleetwood Mac - As long as you follow

070 Boney M - No woman No Cry

071 Cantamus Girls Choir - Everybody's gotta learn sometime

072 Dana - Please tell him that I said Hello

073 Abba - The Day before you came

074 Eddy Grant - How do you feel my love

075 Bob Marley - Iron Lion Zion

076 Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch

077 Blondie - Under the Gun

078 Billy Idol - Don't need a Gun

079 Roxette - The Centre of the Hearts

080 Alphaville - Dance with me

081 The Sounds - Hurt the Ones I Love

082 Billy Idol - Eyes without a face

083 Go Betweens - I'm Alright

084 Lindisfarne - Run for Home

085 Doug Seegars - Going down to the River

086 John Cougar Mellencamp - Human Wheels

087 Amy MacDonald - Troubled Soul

088 Icehouse - Street Cafe

089 John Cougar Mellencamp - I saw you first

090 3 Doors down - Here without You

091 Hinder - Lips of an Angel

092 Razorlight - American

093 SR71 - Another night alone

094 LoveX - Guardian Angel

095 Gnarls Barkley - Gone Daddy Gone

096 Soccx - Scream out loud

097 Kate Ryan - Alive

098 Simon Webbe - Coming round again

099 Train - Save me,San Franscisco

100 The Faces - Stay with me

101 Brian Ferry - Let's stick together

102 Climax Blues band - Couldn't get it right

103 Overtones - Superstar

104 The Electric Hippies - Greedy People

105 Diesel - Tip of my tongue

106 Declan - An Angel

107 Train - Bruises

108 Anajo - Wenn du Wuesstest

109 Fr David - Words

110 John Waite - Missing You

111 RunRig - The greatest Flame

112 Pat Benatar - Love is a Battlefield

113 Marc Almond & Gene Pitney - Somethings got a hold of my heart

114 Lotus Eaters - First Picture of you

115 Go Betweens - The Lotus girls

116 John Denver - Calypso

117 Fleetwood Mac - Seven Wonders

118 New World - Sister Jane

119 CCS - The Band played Boogie

120 The George Baker Selection - Little Green Bag

121 Ol'55 - Shaggy English sheep dog shake

122 Abba - Burning my bridges

123 Paul Davidson - Midnight Rider

124 Pete Tosh & Jagger - Don't look back

125 Pato Banton - Baby come back

126 Black Slate - Amigo

127 A taste of honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie

128 GoldFrapp - Fly me away

129 REM - The sidewinder sleeps tonight

130 Elvis Costello - Chelsea

131 My Chemical Romance - Teenagers

132 Royal republic - Full Steam Space Machine

 

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Sorry for thread Hijack... Yes we are getting old but there are still new releases that I kinda dig !

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:)

 

Careful Outcast, in this thread you could be about to get your music taste critiqued :)

 

Cheers

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Stadl: Hear ya.

 

For examples of #1 songs that are drivel, check Triple J's hottest 100.

 

"Straight Lines" by Silver Chair. Really? It's the most dull song ever. It got to #1 because it was released around time of voting and there was Silver Chair Nostalgia. Nothing more.

 

AD

 

This is the THIRD time (that I've seen) that you have posted this non-fact in the Green Room, and every time some points out that Muse - Knights of Cydonia won that year.

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Stadl: Hear ya.

 

For examples of #1 songs that are drivel, check Triple J's hottest 100.

 

"Straight Lines" by Silver Chair. Really? It's the most dull song ever. It got to #1 because it was released around time of voting and there was Silver Chair Nostalgia. Nothing more.

 

AD

 

This is the THIRD time (that I've seen) that you have posted this non-fact in the Green Room, and every time some points out that Muse - Knights of Cydonia won that year.

 

Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story

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Music is such a personal thing. I used to get all defensive when people would attack music I liked, and would scoff when people liked music I thought was bland, but nowadays I just say to each his own and leave it be.

 

Personally, I like and have always liked more recent music. I will always prefer to listen to a song I've never heard before over something I've heard a bunch of times. All my current favourite songs were released in the last year or two.

 

Major EDIT: There are heaps of good songs written now days. Alt-J, Glass Animals, Disclosure, James Blake, Bon Iver, Arctic Monkeys, Tame Impala... personally I'll take em over any 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s mix

 

Edited by BeDLaM#29

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I was reading an interesting list of songs that were never in the Billboard top 50, but they were really well known and pretty good songs. "Burning Up" was one. It's easy to understand why chart music is often of poor artistic value. It's because pop chart music is meant to be combined with a lifestyle and way of thinking. I'm not sure if the lifestyle and way of thinking was organic or designed by music marketers, but it works!

 

If you haven't already, go and see some live performances of bands you've never heard of. There's a lot of stuff going on out there and it won't come to you.

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:)

 

That's mine and most of my friends' philosophy Jack - I'd warrant half our collections no-one has ever heard of :)

 

Cheers

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