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16 minutes ago, Dasa said:

That link is 2600 not 2600x

Whoops... fixed. Still wins though.

 

Just can't wait to see proper testing!

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The x chips are just higher binned versions of the more vanilla ones so they won't be that different.

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4 hours ago, Jeruselem said:

The x chips are just higher binned versions of the more vanilla ones so they won't be that different.

We won't know until reviewers get their hands on them if Zen 2 has more overclocking headroom. 

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You know I was thinking of how cool it would be if in the multi chiplet if you could OC each chiplet independently. Rock 6 cores at 5ghz and the other 6 at 4.6ghz 🙂   how fun that would be figuring out which chiplet is better or worse. 

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Interesting though Gamble. I think Jerusalem mentioned something earlier in the thread about AMD might do a low clocked chiplet and high clocked chiplet. Which, if they felt threatened by Intel, they certainly could pit one high binned chiplet as chiplet 0 where priority goes to for operations, and then populates chiplet 1 as well under full load with a lower clock speed.

 

There are so many advantages to this chiplet design. AMD is well ahead of the game. That's why we've seen Intel snap all this industry talent. It might take 4-5 years to make something revolutionary so they know they need to get started on it now. But as the roadmap shows... won't be here till 2022. 

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Posted (edited)

This Suggests AMD RAM latency is still high and if true I may not be upgrading to Ryzen

@2933 78-84ns

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13330826?baseline=13339177

 

 

vs 8700K with 3000 17-18-18 RAM 58ns

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13450444?baseline=13437018

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/by73kh/new_amd_ryzen_5_3600_result_on_geekbench_3000_mhz/eqe8grs/

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You expect latency when you start putting cores into separate chiplets.

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Maybe so but 3600 needs to have lower latency than 2600 or it has no hope of being competitive in programs that are sensitive to it like gaming or photoshop\lightroom and what we will have is another CPU that is best suited to video editing.

That or a significantly larger cache than what it has now.

 

2600X @3200 76-79ns @3533 62ns
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13357435

my 6700k 2133c15 69ns @3200c14 52ns
6700k@4.6GHz 3733c16 44ns https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13477012

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Intel must know something if they are calling out AMD for gaming. I'm going to wait for some reviews to see which one I go with as it should be an upgrade for me but for others to switch platforms it might not be. 

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Intel are working on chiplets as well, probably running into issues as well.

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1 hour ago, Dasa said:

Maybe so but 3600 needs to have lower latency than 2600 or it has no hope of being competitive in programs that are sensitive to it like gaming or photoshop\lightroom and what we will have is another CPU that is best suited to video editing.

That or a significantly larger cache than what it has now.

 

2600X @3200 76-79ns @3533 62ns
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13357435

my 6700k 2133c15 69ns @3200c14 52ns
6700k@4.6GHz 3733c16 44ns https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13477012

Let's see what happens when we get proper bench tests. Geek bench might still be a bit behind. And this is being tested on an x470 board. These leaks usually come out from system integrators running tests for low cost builds.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SceptreCore said:

Let's see what happens when we get proper bench tests. Geek bench might still be a bit behind. And this is being tested on an x470 board. These leaks usually come out from system integrators running tests for low cost builds. 

Best hope I think is that they are using a early engineering sample and that it has been improved significantly with final revisions.

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3 hours ago, Dasa said:

Best hope I think is that they are using a early engineering sample and that it has been improved significantly with final revisions.

Then again... Maybe not 😧

 

 

Edited by SceptreCore

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Ouch so the ITX MB I was looking at could not only be a month late but $500-1000au?

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24 minutes ago, Dasa said:

Ouch so the ITX MB I was looking at could not only be a month late but $500-1000au?

 

That's just crazy, we get shafted here in Australia on price and supply. So much for affordable Ryzen 3 upgrades!

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AMD is calling this mainstream... but until the prices reflect that, I'm not convinced. It does reflect however that the mobo manu's believe that the 3000 series are worthy of such high level boards.

 

I would always go B series chipsets anyway as that's my price bracket and it's more than capable

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7 hours ago, Dasa said:

ITX MB I was looking at could not only be a month late but $500-1000au?

Were you looking at the ASrock PG ITX?

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DTX sorry

Asus Crosshair VIII Impact

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1 hour ago, Dasa said:

DTX sorry

Asus Crosshair VIII Impact

You after that SO-DIMM.2 setup hey mate?

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Doesn't really bother me that the m.2 slots are on a daughter board because they couldn't fit them on the PCB at least the RAM is still regular DDR4.

It should be one of the best MB for overclocking RAM on Ryzen 3000 is why it has my interest.

Down side is that I will have to drop back to 16GB but I don't really need 32GB anyway.

Up side is that I will have to test each stick individually to see which are the best clockers.

 

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