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Too Many Damn Lakes! Intel's coming CPU's

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https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intel-new-microcodes-cpu-security-flaws

 

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Some of these bugs were discovered in 2018, but it wasn’t until early 2019 that Intel released the first patches, which were later revised for the following processors in the fall of 2019:

  • Apollo Lake
  • Cherry View
  • Gemini Lake
  • Haswell Desktop
  • Haswell M
  • Haswell Xeon E3
  • Valley View

Now, the company has learned that some both older and newer CPU generations were also affected, including:

  • Denverton
  • Sandy Bridge
  • Sandy Bridge E, EP
  • Valley View
  • Whiskey Lake U

 

 

Particularly troubling is the Whiskey Lake U vulnerability. These should have been patched with the entire whiskey lake lineup. Likely the performance hit would have been too negative for Intel's big ticket item sector I suspect. It doesn't matter now that both 10th gens are out. Hopefully someone does a retrospective performance analysis of this.

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Yes, I have a Sandy Vag after too much Whiskey down by the Lake................apparently I lost my Cherry Haswell.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, fliptopia said:

The top of the article says most Intel CPUs in the last 5 years. So I guess CPUs older than that are OK. 

Yeah well.. anyone with a chip older than 5 years old is likely a candidate for replacement anyway. Though not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if chips older than that are also affected.

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It would seem odd to specify 5 years in that case. They could well be open to a different but similar thing that noone has looked into though. 

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Pricing looks good but man AMD next cpu right around the corner and still pricing is good on AMD.  I wonder if the thicker ihs on the K models will help cool it some.  Clocks are pretty amazing if you can keep it cool. 

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The power draw will be disgusting. Intel has nothing here until 10nm desktop, and even that won't help when Zen 3 comes and adds improved IPC and even higher clocks.

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3600 $299 vs 10400F\ $299-339 < 3 runs on the same system two at 2133 one at 3600c18
AMD ~0-6% faster
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10400/4040vs4073

 

3700X $529 vs 10600KF\K $449\499 <Decent system 3600c18 RAM
Intel 8-10% faster up to 4 cores
AMD 4% faster at 8 cores and 26% faster with multithreading.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10600K/4043vs4072

 

3700X $529 vs 10700KF\K $699\749 <HP system
Intel 3-15% Faster
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4043vs4070

 

3900X $779 vs 10900KF\K $899\999 <A Decent system with 3600c18 RAM and another with 2400
Intel 14-18% faster 1-8 threads
AMD 3% faster MT
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X-vs-Intel-Core-i9-10900K/4044vs4071

3950X $1299 is the same but 36% faster MT.

 

I know userbenchmark has some BS on there sites but these % numbers above should be accurate despite that.

If anything they show AMD in a more favorable light as the benchmark is not overly sensitive to latency although it still sees a bigger change from core\memory latency than Cinebench

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Yeah they changed their weighting system to quad core scoring higher than anything with more cores.

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I never looked at that weighting BS even before they changed it as it was always BS no matter how it is weighted you are better to just look at the performance at each core level which are the figures I posted above.

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