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So I probably have Laryngitis.

I have an ENT referral because it's an 'odd case'.

 

No hoarseness, none at all, but all the pain really only flares up when speaking.

Swallowing is "odd" but not hard. I think it's because my body EXPECTS pain.

Been ongoing for about 2 months now :(

 

Seen a GP 3 times; each time;

"Throat looks normal, other than a couple of small lumps that are usual with a sore throat".

Since I don't smoke or drink, chances of "Other" issues is unlikely, but I wish it would just go away :(

Though my GP did point something out.

"How many days have you been silent?"

"Err.... none, it's not THAT painful, its like Ive been at a party all night, combined with the weakest ever case of tonsilitis"

"Well, if you sprain an ankle it wont heal if you run on it. If your voice is sore, it wont heal if you keep speaking"

 

So here I am, on the tail end of 48hours silence.

Anyone who's met me, would know this is HELL. lol.

 

It's a BBQ night with mates tonight. And I won't be missing it, but I also will be sitting there in silence....

The horror.

 

If it's not gone by Monday, I'll break my silence and book that ENT. That'll mark 10 weeks, and it's just getting frustrating.

 

Bodies are stupid.

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Once you get used to remaining silent, it can be very restful. 'Course, sometimes you really just want to uell in someone's ear, and that's frustrating as hell. :)

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Bodies aren't stupid.

In fact on the whole I'd say they're pretty bloody resilient given some of the shit the brain / mind puts them through ... that is not in reference to your post particularly Master_Scythe, it's just using your quote and running with it in reference to

what I view most days around me IRL.

Also, keeping your mouth closed for extended periods of time is an easy form of meditation too. It's quite calming. Watch out for the charcoal at the BBQ .

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Have they done anything to check for neurological/viral implications?

 

Nope, they said a flu can last 6 weeks alone, and then its not uncommon to have the virus take harbor in the voice box, meaning a 12 week recovery.

It sucks, but apparently this is normal.

 

First time i've ever had a flu or anything.

I mean, I haven't even had a cold I can remember since I was in highschool more than 13 years ago, so it's all news to me

 

I got a referral to an ENT "If Im really worried" but so far it's just the roof of my mouth is a little swolen, my throat is sore without any visible problems. And talking hurts.

They tested for Glandular Fever, which apparently ive had in the past, but don't have now.

 

Also negative test for Mono.

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So considering I don't smoke or drink, I think I'm going to keep waiting this out.

$200 for a consult, and +$300 if they need to use a throat camera (GP thinks they certainly will).

So $500 for a diagnosis? I can go public, but it's a 9 month wait.

 

Time to keep phoning around! Perhaps there is someone cheaper.

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fyi : glandular fever "is" mono(nucleosis)

 

the test for glandular fever would be antibodies - positive IgG means your body has reacted to it at some stage, a negativity IgM suggests that was no time recently

 

depending on your enthusiasm, book for the public clinic and by 9 months on you'll be keen for a scope :)

 

 

as an aside, if you can tolerate anti-inflammatories, using them (on top of food preferably) for a few days may interfere with inflammation, and you will be magically cured

 

the story suggests to me that one of the muscles in your larynx has been sprained, or injured

 

 

 

sorry, that's all you get without a formal personal review :(

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sorry, that's all you get without a formal personal review :(

 

I always forget we have a Scruffy in the house :)

TY very much.

It certainly feels like that. So long as it's not cancer, I'm happy, lol.

 

Yeah I can tolerate everything. I hardly even have pain, just 'enough' to know i'm not right.

But they don't seem to do anything.

 

If you're feeling help-y, I have one thing I'd love to ask you, because I need 'out of the box' ideas on another medical thing...

My usual GP is $70 a visit, and out of ideas :P

I just didnt want to be 'that guy' and start PMing you randomly. lol

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ummm stating the obvious here, but just because you don't do alcohol or ciggies doesn't mean you be in the clear of anything really. Yes I know it's a really pessimistic thing to say, but for someone who ponders whether to buy a house ( see 'nother thread ) $70.00 to sit and chat about your health seems cheap to me ... and I'm not being narky for the sake of it. It's your life M_S that is the topic here.

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throw me a pm and i'll see how benevolent i feel :)

 

standard consult where i am is $80, so don't complain if you get it for $70

 

 

and yeah, could be cancer, but hoarseness without pain would make me more paranoid

 

odynophonia (the impressive medical term that means "pain on making noise") would seem to be related to muscle issue locally

 

dr google says it is : "hoarseness related to glottal insufficiency. Odynophonia is a less common manifestation of glottal insufficiency related to vocal fold motion impairment" and they are offering surgery.... egad ! 2nd opinion, please

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throw me a pm and i'll see how benevolent i feel :)

 

standard consult where i am is $80, so don't complain if you get it for $70

 

Done and done.

 

Catch I think is, is that the clinic that my Doctor is at, are Nazis.

10 minute consult, and if it goes 1 minute over, you're paying triple for an un-booked "Long appointment".

Even he verbally admits he dislikes the clinics practices, but its close to home, and has very good facilities (which it does).

 

I wouldn't mind paying $70 if I could sit for half an hour and work through things, but no....

 

Local public clinic is better!

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Thread title sounds like a bad John Farnham song name.

 

Got bulk billing places? Though generally here that means McDonald's style walk in service and random quack with NFI of your history.

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billing is a strange animal

 

dare i say my shop has a very different view of what a "consult" means

 

generally that's the time it takes to solve a problem, or make a plan to progress the solving of a problem

 

 

expecting things to happen in 10 minutes is sometimes longer than it takes (rarely); i can barely do simple things in under 15 minutes, although in my defence i'm never quite satisfied with doing what the patient wants, and much more inclined to explain to them what they actually need to have happen

 

 

edit : it helps that many of my patients have been known to me for over a decade, several for over 20 years, and in some families i'm already into 3 generations of the clan, so a great deal of their back story is a given (and i have a ridiculous memory for detail)

 

they might be paying customers, but i have a long and intimate personal relationship with them like extended family, and quite reasonably see myself as a farmer of people, in a positive and respectful way

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And what you've just explained is why the ER is so overcrowded with little problems.

There is nowhere (read: very very few places) you can go and be treated with professionalism and care, and NOT feel like you're rushed out the door, OTHER than ER.

 

 

In other news;

my throat is significantly improved, but in return my sinuses are heavy and painful, but with no nose issues.

Neck is also stiff, and I had a night (2 nights ago) where I woke up confused; however it was over 40*C in my room.....

Clinic told me to watch for meningitis; but there's not enough symptoms there yet to be worried.

And to phone 000 if I wake up not knowing where I am again.

 

STUPID BODY!

 

.......Im going out for Ramen.

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outpatients isn't e.r.

 

opd book people for review of significant but not rapidly fatal shiz.... which describes your situation

 

it may need to be done via e.r, if the system still does that, especially in qld which has a public health system renowned for being pretty fucked up (per the people i know who are obliged to sometimes refer to it)

 

 

the throat and nose sound like they will do okay with "watchful waiting"; the rest sound like a senior review will maybe offer some diagnosis and potential further management plan

 

 

 

enjoy the noodles :)

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I seem to recall many moons ago now you said that the costs of feeding yourself from home opposed to dining out /takeaway was in favour of the latter cost wise. Me thinks it's time to review you previous decision perhaps.

Vegies and any fresh food cooked by you is better. No need whatsoever for it be fancy. In fact, imo, the plainer the better.

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I've been on and off a HCC over the last decade. My then-local (currnetly not-so-local at a 35 min drive away) GP clinic have always been happy to just bulk bill me, and only occasionally remember to ask for updated HCC info. Excellent service and professional cover. Never been rushed, tho' if I think it's something significant I'll sometimes make a double appointment to not fuck over patients waiting after me.

 

Maybe you just have shit doctors/luck, MS :p

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I seem to recall many moons ago now you said that the costs of feeding yourself from home opposed to dining out /takeaway was in favour of the latter cost wise. Me thinks it's time to review you previous decision perhaps.

Vegies and any fresh food cooked by you is better. No need whatsoever for it be fancy. In fact, imo, the plainer the better.

 

No, that's still the case.

 

And trust me, a chef\meal companies etc, does a much better job than I do of making sure I eat veggies :P

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I seem to recall many moons ago now you said that the costs of feeding yourself from home opposed to dining out /takeaway was in favour of the latter cost wise. Me thinks it's time to review you previous decision perhaps.

Vegies and any fresh food cooked by you is better. No need whatsoever for it be fancy. In fact, imo, the plainer the better.

 

No, that's still the case.

 

And trust me, a chef\meal companies etc, does a much better job than I do of making sure I eat veggies :P

 

I don't need to trust you per say, you need to trust that random chef/meal companies etc. are the right fit for your body. :) ... What I say stems from how I feel about always 'eating out', and I'm not you.

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I seem to recall many moons ago now you said that the costs of feeding yourself from home opposed to dining out /takeaway was in favour of the latter cost wise. Me thinks it's time to review you previous decision perhaps.

Vegies and any fresh food cooked by you is better. No need whatsoever for it be fancy. In fact, imo, the plainer the better.

 

No, that's still the case.

 

And trust me, a chef\meal companies etc, does a much better job than I do of making sure I eat veggies :P

 

I don't need to trust you per say, you need to trust that random chef/meal companies etc. are the right fit for your body. :) ... What I say stems from how I feel about always 'eating out', and I'm not you.

 

 

Yeah, at home it tends to be microwavable foods (as I own a microwave), and if I'm going to have vegetables it's almost exclusively onions.

Where as at least when the local chef does a meal (I eat almost exclusively asian) the stirfrys have a 'rainbow' in them. There's charcoal vegetables, Miso (and we all know how good that is for ya!), always eggs involved somehow, etc etc.

 

Because I only would choose onions and chicken, eating at home would result in a very bad diet :P

Anyway, besides super low cholesterol, my bloods came back, to quote "perfect".

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Yeah, at home it tends to be microwaveable foods (as I own a microwave)

i am glad you added the part in brackets! because otherwise i'd be imagining you warming them up by sunlight and then chowing down on them no-hands like a dog.

 

so i guess you microwave them first, and then chow down on them no-hands like a dog?

 

(you didnt mention that you own cutlery) :P

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...if I'm going to have vegetables it's almost exclusively onions.

jaysus, dude. onions aint nearly enough. the old-school pop wisdom is true — at the very least, you need your greens!

 

i dont know what "charcoal vegetables" is. the asian-style meals are probably good, but relying on restaurant meals for nutrition has 'bad idea' written all over it.

 

you should aim for a wide variety in your sources of micronutrients. long-term insufficiencies can be doing you damage long before they show up in any blood test, if at all.

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...if I'm going to have vegetables it's almost exclusively onions.

jaysus, dude. onions aint nearly enough. the old-school pop wisdom is true — at the very least, you need your greens!

 

i dont know what "charcoal vegetables" is. the asian-style meals are probably good, but relying on restaurant meals for nutrition has 'bad idea' written all over it.

 

you should aim for a wide variety in your sources of micronutrients. long-term insufficiencies can be doing you damage long before they show up in any blood test, if at all.

 

 

Exactly;

which is why I choose to eat out rather than at home.

It's just too hard without a proper kitchen.

I'd need at least a stove or an oven I recon.

Charcoal vegetables are basically a salad bar you can throw on a grill, kind of like Korean Barbecue.

Hides everything behind burnt coal flavour :)

 

By eat out i'm not going to 'fast food', I live very near a very 'foody' area, I can get fresh everything for less than $10 a meal.

 

As for micro-nutrients, if we can't measure them in our bodies, than we can't be sure if anyone has enough\too much.

 

If yanks can literally live (well, not die) on Maccas and KFC, I'm sure that the fresh veggies and meats found in asian bbq, stirfry, and Bento will keep me going.

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Mixed frozen veg. Bowl. Little bit of water. Clingwrap. Microwave.

 

Easy.

 

 

Yanks get it easier because most of their foods are fortified with vitamins.

 

If you're eating so awfully, I hope you're taking a multivitamin or something to try and cover the gaps.

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