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There's dodgy people and places both on-line and in the B&M. Back before computers, people still needed shit they couldn't find in shops. If they were clever and crafty

they made what ever they needed ( they do this now even with on-line shopping. Youtube is full to overflowing with c&c people showing you there expertise. )

 

They rang or met up with people and communicated the need, or they went to a library. In a round about sort of way I'm trying to show how gainfully employed many people were and could be

simply because they weren't shopping or browsing on-line ;) There were less people then too. Now we have a brave new world full of the ease of obtaining just about anything, and more and

more people with less variety of employment for them all.

 

And for some things, like TMFP's tool (heh), that's a possible solution.

 

For people like me, and Scruffy, where what we want is a micro circuit board that can control a multi-rotor hobby craft, there's no way to 'diy' that.

And nowhere that stocks them locally.

And anywhere in the country that isn't local, has on average 400-600% markup.

 

I'm all for DIY, I build anything I can, My TV stand for 10+ years was 2 cinder blocks and a used kitchen benchtop; however I can't solder things like this. (oh, these are 30mm, 3cm, just so you k,ow how small that photo really is)

899d69871ddee06d09bba4649f4c6ea2e8071c9e

 

And honestly, fuck 600% markup.

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

and how much is my labor worth?

or the wages I pay?

or the rent?

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I will shop locally if the service is good, if the staff just can't seem to be bothered to talk to me for whatever reason then I'll go else where or buy online.

 

With Launceston being my closest city I'm not exactly spoiled for choices unless I want clothes or food, white/brown goods are a choice between Harvey, JB-HiFi and a few others a couple of which a local however I've found the service at these places to be less than satisfactory so I don't go back.

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

 

Less than the supermarket that's for sure!

 

If I need lunch at work, I will often order youfoodz and such online.

If I go out from work, It can be $10+ a meal to get something shitty like mcdonalds.

Or it's $12 to get a 'chef cooked today' lite-n-easy style meal.

Seems a no brainer for me :)

 

Coincidentally I was 'pricing the kitchen' while visiting the parents this weekend.

Mum's a typical '60's Mum', she rules the kitchen, cooks meals; all very 'Marie' from Everybody Loves Raymond (if you've ever had to watch that abomination of a show!)

She was surprised how times have changed;

Unless I purchase more than 1 persons worth, its just impossible to cook cheaper than it is to buy.

 

I mean, for $7, the roast down at the RSL is just too good.

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

 

Less than the supermarket that's for sure!

 

If I need lunch at work, I will often order youfoodz and such online.

If I go out from work, It can be $10+ a meal to get something shitty like mcdonalds.

Or it's $12 to get a 'chef cooked today' lite-n-easy style meal.

Seems a no brainer for me :)

 

Coincidentally I was 'pricing the kitchen' while visiting the parents this weekend.

Mum's a typical '60's Mum', she rules the kitchen, cooks meals; all very 'Marie' from Everybody Loves Raymond (if you've ever had to watch that abomination of a show!)

She was surprised how times have changed;

Unless I purchase more than 1 persons worth, its just impossible to cook cheaper than it is to buy.

 

I mean, for $7, the roast down at the RSL is just too good.

 

Getting a little off track but convos do that ;)

 

I think you're false economising a bit. Do you leave your home and walk to these place you buy your meals at, or do you spend petrol or public transport monies to get there?

What ever approach gets you there should be added to the cost of the food as it's money and at the least, time spent.

Also, just an observance, but you do post quite a few threads with health issues. And given that, it might be said you pay for medical issues where you don't in food and electricity in your

deficient kitchen << imo :)

 

I recall not long ago you saying you are quite the cook too; and given your penchant for the partaking of heating up frozen foods :

1: There is no reason to just buy for one. Why not buy enough ingredients for at least three, cook something, portion it into three and freeze two ?

 

2: You could have a day when you just make up some dishes you love to eat, and as above, portion and freeze the excess for other days. If you do it that way, you're not stuck with

eating the same meal day in day out ...

 

3:You could do your cooking in your mum's kitchen ( if she'd let you :P ) and transport your end product home in an eski to your freezer :)

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

 

Less than the supermarket that's for sure!

 

If I need lunch at work, I will often order youfoodz and such online.

If I go out from work, It can be $10+ a meal to get something shitty like mcdonalds.

Or it's $12 to get a 'chef cooked today' lite-n-easy style meal.

Seems a no brainer for me :)

 

Coincidentally I was 'pricing the kitchen' while visiting the parents this weekend.

Mum's a typical '60's Mum', she rules the kitchen, cooks meals; all very 'Marie' from Everybody Loves Raymond (if you've ever had to watch that abomination of a show!)

She was surprised how times have changed;

Unless I purchase more than 1 persons worth, its just impossible to cook cheaper than it is to buy.

 

I mean, for $7, the roast down at the RSL is just too good.

 

Getting a little off track but convos do that ;)

 

I think you're false economising a bit. Do you leave your home and walk to these place you buy your meals at, or do you spend petrol or public transport monies to get there?

What ever approach gets you there should be added to the cost of the food as it's money and at the least, time spent.

Also, just an observance, but you do post quite a few threads with health issues. And given that, it might be said you pay for medical issues where you don't in food and electricity in your

deficient kitchen << imo :)

 

I recall not long ago you saying you are quite the cook too; and given your penchant for the partaking of heating up frozen foods :

1: There is no reason to just buy for one. Why not buy enough ingredients for at least three, cook something, portion it into three and freeze two ?

 

2: You could have a day when you just make up some dishes you love to eat, and as above, portion and freeze the excess for other days. If you do it that way, you're not stuck with

eating the same meal day in day out ...

 

3:You could do your cooking in your mum's kitchen ( if she'd let you :P ) and transport your end product home in an eski to your freezer :)

 

 

I walk, or have them delivered (I work in an industrial area, so delivery is free, as they're packaged around the corner).

So no need to add anything else. Also time == lunch break @ work, so It may as well be used for that!

 

1: There is no reason to just buy for one. Why not buy enough ingredients for at least three, cook something, portion it into three and freeze two ?

In theory, this is a great idea, but things still go off.

For example, I haven't been home before midnight in about a fortnight. I normally arrive home, shower, and go straight to bed.

I think I've mentioned before, I'd be lucky to eat 1 meal at home a week, I just don't get home.

 

I mean, I was going to thaw some vacuum sealed salmon the other night; use by 2015. Whoops.

My concept of time is shot, like unbelievably bad. I actually remember buying that salmon, I remember what was playing on the radio, I remember what I did after shopping that day.

But heaven help me if I expected it to be 2014 I bought it. I mean, it was, I wasn't single at that time, so it had to be, but damn! Time flies.

 

 

2: You could have a day when you just make up some dishes you love to eat, and as above, portion and freeze the excess for other days. If you do it that way, you're not stuck with

eating the same meal day in day out ...

 

I did this for a while, but reality got in the way.

My one meal a day is usually Lunch.

My work often goes out for food, and to be honest, there is a certain (high) value I put on the social\team building aspect of sharing a meal.

I don't drink, so I already miss out on being "one of the team" when we go to the pub or event parties.

I couldn't keep doing that with meals also, being the odd one out has cost me more than 1 job when it reaches the 'who do we cut?' stage of employment.

 

 

3:You could do your cooking in your mum's kitchen ( if she'd let you :P ) and transport your end product home in an eski to your freezer :)

 

This I do! but normally I cook for her, and then steal the leftovers. :P

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I'm an on-line type of guy. Mainly because it"s easier. Life is far to busy to try and get around to different places paying bills. :(

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how much mark up you reckon is on the food you buy nightly from the eateries ? Amazed you don't buy your din-dins on-line too :)

 

Less than the supermarket that's for sure!

 

If I need lunch at work, I will often order youfoodz and such online.

If I go out from work, It can be $10+ a meal to get something shitty like mcdonalds.

Or it's $12 to get a 'chef cooked today' lite-n-easy style meal.

Seems a no brainer for me :)

 

Coincidentally I was 'pricing the kitchen' while visiting the parents this weekend.

Mum's a typical '60's Mum', she rules the kitchen, cooks meals; all very 'Marie' from Everybody Loves Raymond (if you've ever had to watch that abomination of a show!)

She was surprised how times have changed;

Unless I purchase more than 1 persons worth, its just impossible to cook cheaper than it is to buy.

 

I mean, for $7, the roast down at the RSL is just too good.

 

Getting a little off track but convos do that ;)

 

I think you're false economising a bit. Do you leave your home and walk to these place you buy your meals at, or do you spend petrol or public transport monies to get there?

What ever approach gets you there should be added to the cost of the food as it's money and at the least, time spent.

Also, just an observance, but you do post quite a few threads with health issues. And given that, it might be said you pay for medical issues where you don't in food and electricity in your

deficient kitchen << imo :)

 

I recall not long ago you saying you are quite the cook too; and given your penchant for the partaking of heating up frozen foods :

1: There is no reason to just buy for one. Why not buy enough ingredients for at least three, cook something, portion it into three and freeze two ?

 

2: You could have a day when you just make up some dishes you love to eat, and as above, portion and freeze the excess for other days. If you do it that way, you're not stuck with

eating the same meal day in day out ...

 

3:You could do your cooking in your mum's kitchen ( if she'd let you :P ) and transport your end product home in an eski to your freezer :)

 

 

I walk, or have them delivered (I work in an industrial area, so delivery is free, as they're packaged around the corner).

So no need to add anything else. Also time == lunch break @ work, so It may as well be used for that!

 

 

 

2: You could have a day when you just make up some dishes you love to eat, and as above, portion and freeze the excess for other days. If you do it that way, you're not stuck with

eating the same meal day in day out ...

 

I did this for a while, but reality got in the way.

My one meal a day is usually Lunch.

My work often goes out for food, and to be honest, there is a certain (high) value I put on the social\team building aspect of sharing a meal.

I don't drink, so I already miss out on being "one of the team" when we go to the pub or event parties.

I couldn't keep doing that with meals also, being the odd one out has cost me more than 1 job when it reaches the 'who do we cut?' stage of employment.

 

 

That's a tough break for now .

 

christ almighty that's a "hulkster" posting !! *waves* :)

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I buy most bicycle parts and tools online. The idea of supporting local bike stores appeals to me, but there is usually is significant price difference between online and bricks and mortar. Regular online prices are cheaper, and during sales, its a no brainer. More choices too. I feel a bit chary about buying electronic parts since you're on your own for support, but that hasn't stopped me yet.

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i notice the move away from physical shopping when i drive around

5 years ago, driving around the CBD in Ballarat, it was hard to find a parking spot near were you wanted to shop. Now you would be unlucky not to find a place within a short walking distance

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If potato head dutton has his way, extra $5 per parcel charge.

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he's such a dick, i guess he has no qualms about doing something that will make him unpopular with yet another group of voters

 

once nobody likes you it's hard to be concerned about whether they'll like you less

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he's such a dick, i guess he has no qualms about doing something that will make him unpopular with yet another group of voters

 

once nobody likes you it's hard to be concerned about whether they'll like you less

 

You mean the voters in his electorate who use Amazon and eBAY ...

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i notice the move away from physical shopping when i drive around

5 years ago, driving around the CBD in Ballarat, it was hard to find a parking spot near were you wanted to shop. Now you would be unlucky not to find a place within a short walking distance

Some of that would be due to on-line, but the rest is due to a general lack of spending.

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If potato head dutton has his way, extra $5 per parcel charge.

 

I'll never understand that.

There is NO WAY it costs $5 per parcel scanned.

 

I mean, if they want to be unpopular, but still be manageable, drop the import tax to $750, from $1k or something.

 

Considering what customs calls a parcel, we'll be paying $5.01 for a 0.01c Capacitor!

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went into a shop yesterday to spend a few hundred

unfortunately it took 3 staff 10 minutes to try to find out if they had any stock, computer said yes but they could nit find it

 

i walked out empty handed

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went into a shop yesterday to spend a few hundred

unfortunately it took 3 staff 10 minutes to try to find out if they had any stock, computer said yes but they could nit find it

 

i walked out empty handed

Unfortunately not an uncommon experience these days. Seems like the only people who give a shit are the owners - the staff are too often worthless.

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Maybe the computer was wrong. Maybe whoever is responsible for updating the stock line on the computer is wrong. Maybe the staff on the floor can only obey the boss's computer; maybe the staff could be more independent in their thought processes.

Maybe if the boss paid more attention to the business ...

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The staff only give a shit if they're getting commission from the sale, hence the existence of rubbish like Norton's products.

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The staff only give a shit if they're getting commission from the sale, hence the existence of rubbish like Norton's products.

 

I never once worried about any potentials commission from sales while working in retail, to say I or others in retail don't give a shit is a gross generalisation. May I suggest that you try and find a store where the staff pride themselves of the service they offer as opposed to the commission. From TheManFromPOST brief description it appears that the staff were trying their best to help but the inventory mangement system let them down.

 

Having worked in retail I will not put up with poor service as there is no excuse for it, so I'll go to another store or buy online.

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The staff only give a shit if they're getting commission from the sale, hence the existence of rubbish like Norton's products.

 

I never once worried about any potentials commission from sales while working in retail, to say I or others in retail don't give a shit is a gross generalisation. May I suggest that you try and find a store where the staff pride themselves of the service they offer as opposed to the commission. From TheManFromPOST brief description it appears that the staff were trying their best to help but the inventory mangement system let them down.

 

Having worked in retail I will not put up with poor service as there is no excuse for it, so I'll go to another store or buy online.

the problem for me is i live Ballarat, i dont consider it a small place

but if you want a fridge or a washing machine you now have only two choices

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Having worked in retail I will not put up with poor service as there is no excuse for it, so I'll go to another store or buy online.

My sis worked retail - hard. Then bought the store. Much later, she's moved on to 'own' a pizza franchise (can you call it ownership when someone else mandates everything about the running of your business?) She can't get good staff. They take home more per week than she does for less hours worked, and then feel free to quit or take a day off with zero notice. One employee they caught stealing from the til on CCTV, and still had to stump legal fees fighting the wrongful dismissal case.

 

No, there's no excuse for it. These fuckers aren't even trying to make one.

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Having worked in retail I will not put up with poor service as there is no excuse for it, so I'll go to another store or buy online.

My sis worked retail - hard. Then bought the store. Much later, she's moved on to 'own' a pizza franchise (can you call it ownership when someone else mandates everything about the running of your business?) She can't get good staff. They take home more per week than she does for less hours worked, and then feel free to quit or take a day off with zero notice. One employee they caught stealing from the til on CCTV, and still had to stump legal fees fighting the wrongful dismissal case.

 

No, there's no excuse for it. These fuckers aren't even trying to make one.

 

[ not intending to demean your sister's business in any way ]

 

... it's a pizza place. The staff that work there would hear comments like ... " it's a shit type of job to get " ... " not a real job, just tiding them over till the real job comes along " ... or, ... " it's just money for my study ". And there would

be more negative style comments too. But also, as most of the staff working are all fairly young, work ethics, regardless of reason for working in a pizza joint, are generally still evolving.

Australia's current Fairworks association needs a bloody good kick up the bum AFAIC . Like most of the bodies designed to keep us honest, they seen to have become narrow-minded-self-interested groups.

 

Staff don't need to care about the biz if they feel like a day off. They don't own the biz.. That's not meant to sound callous, it's just the mindset of the staff.

There's a Dominos up here in Port. I wouldn't buy a pizza from them no matter how much my crave is / was ;) ... the staff there seem to work in a food littered environment quite happily. This is the tropics, fresh food needs good care so's not to make

a person feel yuki afterwards. But that's up here and a very personal example.

 

I admire your sister's longevity with the franchise.

 

I've worked the same biz for nearly two decades ( the same industry for nearly three ). I don't own the biz and am mightily glad of it. But I do fully comprehend that if I don't do my job then the biz may not be there for me . I mostly like what I do in retail,

but like any job I could cheerfully wish the client and my boss to another universe, and then at other times the warm feelings of affection for both client and boss make all right with this universe .

... And just to add, I blame the owner of the franchise up here for the less than perfect look of the place up here. << referring to the pizza place in Port.

Here's a thought ...

If the pizza shops employed still agile senior citizens to work in the pizza shops. You'd still get your fair share of no-hopers, but I reckon you'd get a lot of people really glad of the pay check and employment quite frankly. And with the nous to

realise it's not a cool look to have a food littered work bench, or be wading through shredded cheese on the floor .

 

edit: for clarity

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