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I find the idea that she's already corrupt almost as absurd as the idea that Trump isn't. 

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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03/05/climate-action-champion-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accused-of-massive-campaign-finance-violations/

"FEC Complaint Filed Against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for ‘Extensive Off-the-Books’ Campaign

Posted on March 4, 2019 by Peter Flaherty

National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC) filed a formal Complaint today with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti, and several other individuals and groups who orchestrated an extensive operation to hide hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign spending during the 2018 campaign, in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended.

The funds were expended in support of ten or more Congressional candidates by a for-profit entity called Brand New Congress LLC, apparently operated by Chakrabarti. The Act requires that all expenditures of $200 or more to be disclosed to the FEC, and their purpose identified. The Complaint alleges that Chakrabarti’s LLC served as a “cutout,” for at least $885,735 received from Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign and two federal political action committees, Brand New Congress PAC and Justice Democrats PAC.

The final disposition of the funds is unknown because whatever expenditures were made were never reported to the FEC. It appears, however, that they underwrote a score of campaign-related events and activities for Ocasio-Cortez and other Congressional candidates.

Chakrabarti described the operation on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow as a “unified” national campaign to elect progressives to Congress, whereby candidates would be freed from the responsibility of raising money or administering their campaigns. He did not mention that it would also free candidates from the responsibility of disclosure. He stated that one of the campaign’s priorities is to “get rid of the influence of money in politics.”

According to Tom Anderson, director of NLPC’s Government Integrity Project, “These are not minor or technical violations. We are talking about real money here. In all my years of studying FEC reports, I’ve never seen a more ambitious operation to circumvent reporting requirements. Representative Ocasio-Cortez has been quite vocal in condemning so-called dark money, but her own campaign went to great lengths to avoid the sunlight of disclosure.”

NLPC helped expose irregularities in the use of campaign funds by ex-Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY), who Ocasio-Cortez defeated for re-election in 2018.

Click here for Washington Examiner story by Alana Goodman titled, “AOC’s Chief of Staff Ran $1M Slush Fund by Diverting Campaign Cash to His Own Companies.

 

The bit underlined implies she is already corrupt

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1 hour ago, eveln said:

The bit underlined implies she is already corrupt

Not to sound too tinfoil-hatty, but it would really suit an awful lot of very powerful people for that to have happened.  More sensibly, if that can be proven her political career is *over*.

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2 hours ago, Cybes said:
3 hours ago, eveln said:

The bit underlined implies she is already corrupt

Not to sound too tinfoil-hatty, but it would really suit an awful lot of very powerful people for that to have happened.  More sensibly, if that can be proven her political career is *over*.

Sorry, but your comment made me giggle with the irony

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3 hours ago, Cybes said:

Not to sound too tinfoil-hatty, but it would really suit an awful lot of very powerful people for that to have happened.  More sensibly, if that can be proven her political career is *over*.

Just to point out the obvious here but if you can find me a non-corrupt, non-money-hungry, non-ethically-compromised socialist trying to get into government on promises of unicorns and fairies, I will introduce you to a Wookie I met last week.

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1 hour ago, Leonid said:

Just to point out the obvious here but if you can find me a non-corrupt, non-money-hungry, non-ethically-compromised socialist trying to get into government on promises of unicorns and fairies, I will introduce you to a Wookie I met last week.

At this point, ^that is still an allegation, not fact. And I very much suspect you would not accept any suggestion at all.

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7 hours ago, Cybes said:

At this point, ^that is still an allegation, not fact. And I very much suspect you would not accept any suggestion at all.

At this point, for me at least, it's fairly axiomatic.

AOC not being in some way corrupt (if not now, then soon) would violate every tenet of socialism as expressed in a hundred experiments.

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🙂

It would violate the basic tenet of a majority of modern politicians and not a few from the past as well I'd suggest.

If anyone wants to suggest Trump is not corrupt I'll raise your Wookie and throw in a talking possum 🙂

Cheers

 

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17 minutes ago, chrisg said:

🙂

It would violate the basic tenet of a majority of modern politicians and not a few from the past as well I'd suggest.

If anyone wants to suggest Trump is not corrupt I'll raise your Wookie and throw in a talking possum 🙂

Cheers

 

Not disputing the point. Just pointing out that socialist politicians are just as likely to be authoritarian corrupt fuckwits as Christian family values types are to be caught with their dicks in the bum of a teenager they met online.

 

It’s just the latter are condemned by all sane people while the former are given godly plaudits as if there isn’t a history of this shit repeating itself in 4000 permutations without a useful prominent counter-example.

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3 hours ago, Leonid said:

Not disputing the point. Just pointing out that socialist politicians are just as likely to be authoritarian corrupt fuckwits as Christian family values types are to be caught with their dicks in the bum of a teenager they met online.

 

It’s just the latter are condemned by all sane people while the former are given godly plaudits as if there isn’t a history of this shit repeating itself in 4000 permutations without a useful prominent counter-example.

🙂

Agreed, although not just socialist politicians either. Jeremy Thorpe springs to mind but I doubt he was or is alone.

Cheers

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On 3/7/2019 at 8:34 PM, eveln said:

The bit underlined implies she is already corrupt

I'm still missing the bit that proves she was in on it.

But regardless, if there's any truth to this, that's deeply disturbing and disappointing, not to mention puzzling - I can't see the point of hiding the activities when the stated aim is overthrow the current hegemony.

And you'll note I won't stoop to any whataboutism, which would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

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3 hours ago, Kimmo said:

I'm still missing the bit that proves she was in on it.

But regardless, if there's any truth to this, that's deeply disturbing and disappointing, not to mention puzzling - I can't see the point of hiding the activities when the stated aim is overthrow the current hegemony.

And you'll note I won't stoop to any whataboutism, which would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

She and/or her campaign has denied any wrongdoing (naturally), and explained that the activities complained about *were* disclosed to the relevant authorities, and listed as per the official guidelines.  Snopes agrees.  Whether or not the FEC wil have anything to say about the matter has yet to be seen.

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Hah! Snopes is good enough for me. 

Suck it, ratfuckers! 

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Pretty damn prosecutorial for a waitress... 

 

 

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Honestly, I don't see why some people think that pointing she used to be waitress is a damning thing.  She lives in probably the closest thing to an arsehole that a city has - you take what work you can get or you live under a bridge and try not to get eaten by rats. (or deal drugs, or streetwalk)

 

If she'd been nothing else besides a waitress for a decade, that might tell you something, but only 'might' because people do get ground up the gears of life in the US now and then.

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7 minutes ago, Cybes said:

I don't see why some people think that pointing she used to be waitress is a damning thing

 

I like pointing it out to illustrate how bogus the meritocracy conceit is. 

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1 hour ago, Kimmo said:

 

I like pointing it out to illustrate how bogus the meritocracy conceit is. 

 

Ehhh.  Meritocracy - giving the job to the one best suited for it - is a fine idea.  The world does not apply it in many cases; jobs go to who was there, or family/friends, or the one who gave you the best blowjob or biggest kickback.

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22 minutes ago, Cybes said:

The world does not apply it in many cases;

 

Yet many act as if meritocracy applies; virtually a whole pole on the political spectrum, in fact. 

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1 minute ago, Kimmo said:

 

Yet many act as if meritocracy applies; virtually a whole pole on the political spectrum, in fact. 

 

There's another factor too: one job, 400 suitable applicants.  So you end up with 399 hair dressers/waiters/grease monkeys/whatever with a Bachelor's degree.

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Posted (edited)

I think you're probability laying it on an order of magnitude or two a bit thick, but yeah, there's that. And it reinforces my thrust; there are many to whom the fact she was a waitress is cause for prejudice. Screw those folks, and may their noses be rubbed in facts to the contrary. 

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22 minutes ago, Kimmo said:

I think you're probability laying it on an order of magnitude or two a bit thick

 

Call it exaggeration for effect. 😜

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Intelligent people armed with facts do it for me.

Next clip is a tad long but it doesn't beat around the bush.

Explains a lot.

 

 

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Oh no, AOC is a puppet of the Justice Democrats, how awful! 

 

Cenk and Kyle are such evil sinister guys, and their fetish for downward wealth redistribution will destroy the economy by increasing disposable income in the populace, and thus demand for goods and services, how terrible! 

 

It's gonna be end times when their dastardly conspiracy to make the filthy rich a bit less rich comes to pass, only the cockroaches will survive.

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On 19/03/2019 at 11:02 PM, Waltish said:

Intelligent people armed with facts do it for me.

 

OK, I've given that some time to percolate through the media.  It hasn't.  The mainstream media, 'left-leaning' as it might be portrayed (they aren't - they're staunch centrists), would love nothing better than to torpedo AOC - and Bernie, and Tulsi (ie: anyone actually leftist/progressive), and yet nobody that isn't acknowledged hard right has touched it.  Why do you suppose that might be?  They wasted no time jumping on AOC's supposed campaign fund embezzlement, and that story was quite easy to disprove.

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5 hours ago, Cybes said:

they're staunch centrists

 

Only ostensibly... they're generally centre-right at the leftmost, because the ridiculously wealthy pay the piper. Of course, they're very happy for you to be under the impression they're all fair and balanced...

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