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Yeah Nich.

 

I think I've mentioned before Port Augusta had some massive coal stations, demolished now but the legacy of pollution, including ironically Thorium, around the Top of the Gulf will be generations getting out of the ecology. Anyone who ever passed through the town would be aware of one aspect of that pollution, Lake Knockout which you have to drive over to get into town.

 

Natural gas, which W.A. uses a lot for power generation is much cleaner but not spotless and probably a much more finite resource than coal. You CAN produce gas from coal but whilst old news had tended to be uneconomical. New efforts are afoot in the field however:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-26921145

 

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Pelosi says maybe no impeachment now 😉

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13 minutes ago, eveln said:

Pelosi says maybe no impeachment now 😉

 

Well sort of. She is for it if it comes from both sides that Trump has to go. But she wont lead the democrats to pursue it on their own. From what I've read she has been cagey about it all along. 

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Yes, she's a Dem first, but The Speaker of The House is her day job ... I'd think that would mean a more diplomatic approach should be coming from her  ... but really, my first thought when I saw this news tonight, was that the POTUS and his party must have some good 'stuff' on someone 😉

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54 minutes ago, eveln said:

Pelosi says maybe no impeachment now 😉

 

She's of the opinion it will be cheaper, easier, and less disruptive to just let him get voted out at the next Federal election.  Which is true... But also relies on him not being voted back in by his idiot base and the machinations of a mystifyingly hypnotised Party.

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12 minutes ago, Cybes said:

 

She's of the opinion it will be cheaper, easier, and less disruptive to just let him get voted out at the next Federal election.  Which is true... But also relies on him not being voted back in by his idiot base and the machinations of a mystifyingly hypnotised Party.

Okay

 

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The problem has always been that any attempt at impeachment would have to be made as a cast-iron certainty. Can you imagine Trump if he were to be impeached and managed to get out of it ?

 

Really speaking as Cybes says the Dems are better off looking to the election if they cannot present enough damning evidence to drag Trump down.

 

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Well that would be a novel approach by the Dems to actually work at winning over the votes rather than just trying to destroy the elected POTUS.  ... but even now there are two dudes at least who are attempting their own enquiries into the POTUS's wrongdoings ...

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Hmm,

 

They are indeed but a whole slew of candidates are on the election trail selling the Democrat vision - and not spending TOO much time trying to look good by slagging Trump, as tempting as that might be.

 

It is possible that either the Dems think it is now too late for an impeachment to proceed before election fever begins to seize the U.S. again giving Trump useful righteous pontificatings to take on the road. Or there may well be, I'm not totally familiar with the U.S. constitution, that Trump could slip under the protection of running for re-election. That I do not know but the Dem think tank would I suspect be coaching Pelosi to begin back-peddling publicly on the impeachment possibility and re-focusing on a return to the White house for sound reasons. They learned last time around not to treat Trump as the joke he really is.

 

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On 3/13/2019 at 9:36 PM, eveln said:

Well that would be a novel approach by the Dems to actually work at winning over the votes 

 

Lolwut. 

 

The Dems actually win the votes - if it wasn't for a whole suite of dirty tricks, the Republicans wouldn't have seen government since Bush snr. 

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Hmm,

 

Dunno about Bikers for Trump but by definition the 1%ers are outlaws. The support he claims from the LEGAL enforcement agencies such as police, military etc is probably reasonable in terms of their being somewhat higher numbers of Republicans in those branches but would they actually support a President on the ropes ?

 

I very much doubt it, the police are not going to want to tangle with the military, unlikely to even consider it, a lot of ex-mil in the police and whilst policing is a state matter both they and the military swear an oath to the country not to a transient wanker in the oval office. He'd be riding for a very quick fall, nothing would please me and many others more than to see his own Secret Service put him in cuffs. Again they are loyal to the office not to the incumbent.

 

America is not likely to descend into a second civil war but if it did his head would be on top of the Washington Monument, or in the arms of the Lincoln memorial.

 

Some violence is possible but really he's off in fairy land.

 

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10 minutes ago, chrisg said:

policing is a state matter both they and the military swear an oath to the country not to a transient wanker in the oval office.

 

Yeah, nice theory, and I'm sure it's the case for many, but we know the military and particularly the police are a cozy haven for white supremacists, who TRE45ON has done an amazing amount to empower... 

 

 

 

I'd take Robert Reich's concerns a bit more seriously than that. Dude knows a thing or two

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🙂

 

Not really, a lot of the mil, including higher ranks as well as rank and file are non-white, same with the cops - don't believe everything the media tries to portray in that regard.

 

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12 minutes ago, chrisg said:

don't believe everything the media tries to portray in that regard.

 

To be fair, you have to go looking for this sort of content; it's hardly MSM fodder. I'm of course aware there are even less credible elements of the media ecosystem too. There's enough evidence in the public record to thoroughly support a well-founded concern about such a demographic skew, and authoritarians and bigots are obviously cosy bedfellows. 

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The longer Trump tweets the more it becomes  apparent that he gets his entire world view and knee-jerk reaction to most everything from his obsessive TV viewing.

 

Now his staff have had to defend his comments about Christchurch - guess it was top of the news in Washington at midnight or something...

 

Just what the hell it has to do with him is moot.

 

Jerk is right, briefings are  prepared by a slew of people of considerably more intelligence than Fox News writers but he is well recorded to essentially ignore them.

 

Then again staffers are of considerably more intelligence than the idiot - perhaps he doesn't understand what they try to present to him until it is filtered through the media  "fit for morons" device.

 

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So much TDS in here, it's astounding.

Never mind it's of no consequence.

Mueller is taking a tad longer than expected to wind up his failed witch hunt, hmm be done soon anyway.

Some stuff needs his op to be over so it's not part of an ongoing investigation before it can be declassified and released.

Then it will be an ongoing stream of declassified documents showing who and whom the criminals and perpetrators are, there will be trials, convictions, and traitors will feel the weight of the law.

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9 minutes ago, Waltish said:

TDS

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Mueller ... failed witch hunt

 

Jesus, man - any more Trumpist rhetoric and you'll start playing banjo.

 

FWIW, I don't give a shit which party the yanks vote for.  I might think they're mistaken to vote for one Party or another at various times, but it's *their* problem.  What I *do* care about is that dickhead doesn't seem to be able to tell the truth; that he has, on video, contradicted his own position of one minute prior, also on video, and denied saying either; that he can label Mueller's inquiry a "witch hunt" on behalf of "angry democrats" and have people believe him - despite Mueller being a Republican, and the inquiry being initiated by the Republicans - and have people believe him; that his best friends are criminals and dictators; that, according to his own wife, his only book (kept on his bedside table!) is a collection of Hitler's speeches; that he has threatened *twice* to ignore democratic election results against him (before his election: "I will accept the election result IF I WIN!", and just recently: (paraphrased) "The Army, Police, and Bikers for Trump are on my side, and things will get nasty if I lose").

 

No matter which side of politics you're on, this man should never have been voted in, and should most definite be escorted out immediately.

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Really Cybes your baseless utterences are to be taken as fact, the Muller witch hunt has failed, the fact you deny this shows the depth of your derangement.

I don't intend to argue the point, am just shining some light.

When the storm begins, many will have trouble keeping a grip, the shock of realising the extent to which they they have been lied to and how completely they were taken in.

Well let's be kind and just say it will be a bit hard for them to cope with.

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6 minutes ago, Waltish said:

Really Cybes your baseless utterences are to be taken as fact, the Muller witch hunt has failed, the fact you deny this shows the depth of your derangement.

 

If you think I'm deranged on this, put up or shut up: tell me with which point *exactly* you disagree and give evidence to the contrary.  As I've already said: Mueller is a Republican; the inquiry was set off by Republicans; therefore the Democrats have nothing to do with it.  In addition, Mueller has been praised by both sides, and Trump himself before he was subject of his attention, for being meticulous and accurate.  AND, the report is not yet in.  AND an awful lot of people who've been brought in for questioning seem to have either been given an orange jumpsuit or an immunity deal.

 

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Future proves past, let's see what happens, I am not interested in a war of words, events will be unfolding, won't have to wait long for the storm.

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29 minutes ago, Waltish said:

Future proves past, let's see what happens, I am not interested in a war of words, events will be unfolding, won't have to wait long for the storm.

 

I see.  So you feel free to impugn my sanity and/or honesty, and when challenged about it decline to defend it.  Just so's we both know where we stand.

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So precious,  events will prove it, won't be Trump going to prison, Mueller will be very lucky or very cooperative to not be doing time.

I don't think statute of limitations has run out on the Uranium One deal.

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10 minutes ago, Waltish said:

So precious

 

Nice.  I was prepared to disagree but still respect, but...

 

Yes, the future will play out, and neither of our opinions will have any sway in the matter, and Mueller will face any issues of his own.  That is not germane to Trump's wrongdoing or otherwise, or to his completely unacceptable public behaviour.  It is most especially no excuse for your name-calling.

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