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5 hours ago, chrisg said:

🙂

 

 It's always SO empowering to crouch behind a keyboard, and snarl futilely  🙂 )

 

 

 

More or less empowering than pretending to be someone you are not?
Actually, pretending implies a somewhat playful endeavour.
Falsifying military service, which as I said is a federal offence, is more the case.

 

 

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23 hours ago, eveln said:

But that's not I believe  the issue being questioned here. I think it's about whether he served. 

 

Yes, that I 'got'.  What I'm saying is that the "how can you not trust someone who served" bit very strongly implies that serving buys trust.  I disagree with that premise.

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2 minutes ago, Cybes said:

 

Yes, that I 'got'.  What I'm saying is that the "how can you not trust someone who served" bit very strongly implies that serving buys trust.  I disagree with that premise.

Ahhhhh - I gotcha now dude.

chrisg seems to think it does though 😂

 

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On 9/30/2019 at 2:49 PM, chrisg said:

...or take matters into my own hands

This is probably the 4th or 5th time I have invited you to do so.

But you also refuse to take matters into your own hands.

More bullshit?

Yesssiree!

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46 minutes ago, Cybes said:

 

Yes, that I 'got'.  What I'm saying is that the "how can you not trust someone who served" bit very strongly implies that serving buys trust.  I disagree with that premise.

I don't disagree with the underlined

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Apparently, not yet confirmed but contended by Japan, two launches one of which came down in the Japanese "Economic Exclusion Zone" in other words what they claim as their territorial waters.

 

Given how accurate these NK missiles aren't that's a bit too close.

 

Fat Boy Kim is playing Donald in just the same way that Putin is.

 

Trump also had a rather disastrous press conference with the Finnish Prim Minister present. The Reuters correspondent tried to ask a follow-up question about the whistle-blowing, not the appropriate place but Trump blasted him anyway, then later tried to take a question intended for the Finn, which led to some thinly veiled sarcasm from the Prime Minister.

 

Coupled with the revelations about Morrison and Downer Trump is not having a very good week.

 

Cheers

 

 

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2 minutes ago, eveln said:

Bernie is done ... he just doesn't have the heart for it

Lol

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Wish we had someone with intelligence who could hack the North Koreans and save the world for us 😕

 

 

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4 minutes ago, scruffy1 said:

that'll be the chinese

Three out of three?!

Even the saving the world bit?!

 

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they'll be saving the world for them

 

we'll just be collateral beneficiaries

 

 

 

even meatloaf knows 2 out of 3 ain't bad

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On 10/2/2019 at 6:50 PM, Cybes said:

 

Yes, that I 'got'.  What I'm saying is that the "how can you not trust someone who served" bit very strongly implies that serving buys trust.  I disagree with that premise.

Yeh having served, I too disagree with the premise that service buys trust.

In the Army I met the very best of people, also met some specimens of humanity that could only be described as human garbage, definatly not to be trusted.

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Fat Boy is upping the ante, typical of him before talks start:

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/north-korea-confirms-firing-ballistic-missile-from-submarine/news-story/5ea99ab2e1ba64536032f2f8a258ff5d

 

There are a few things of note:

 

The North Koreans do have a number of submarines but in the main they are very unreliable.

 

A few months back one became entangled and the crew committed suicide rather than surrender in South Korean waters.

 

The likelihood of this submarine being actually able to set sail is very questionable so Kim really is trying to pretend he has the same toys as the big boys. It really makes no difference if he launches from land or a submarine in the harbour, but he does love his launches,whilst his people starve as a consequence.

 

The launch apparently was sub-orbital and broke up on re-entry, that suggests not exactly scintillating engineering and no real SLBM capability of consequence at all.

 

Nonetheless it apparently did again come down in the Japanese Exclusion zone, somewhat provocative.

 

I do understand why Koreans, North and South, do not in any way like Japan at all. It is a war/dispute that has gone on for centuries, one of my nieces is Korean, she would never, ever visit Japan, which does annoy my nephew a bit, before he met her he had been to Japan and liked it.

 

Asians tend to have very long memories and do hold grudges.

 

Japan is still constrained by the terms of WWII surrender although they have been relaxed of late.

 

In this crazy, insane world if Kim keeps it up I would not dismiss a pact between South Korea and Japan to shut North Korea down for good.

 

I guess then America would have no choice but to react and North Korea would be quickly a nuclear desert. The consequences of which I prefer not to think about.

 

Kim is demonstrably insane, what I do not understand is why the NK populace have not put his head on a flag pole and come talk as yet.

 

Hope springs eternal but someone needs to take his toys away from him or he is going to burn.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, chrisg said:

 

A few months back one became entangled and the crew committed suicide rather than surrender in South Korean waters.

 

 

21 years ago.

It sank as it was being towed - the sub was already captured by South Korean Navy.

The majority of the crew were murdered.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Cybes said:

 

Big months.

Huge months.
Tall, even.
Inconceivable!

 

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once you get older you'll appreciate that perception of timing wrt "past events" is unreliable

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/opinion/trump-voters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

 

 

Why Trump Voters Stick With Him

An imagined conversation with Flyover Man.

 

Urban Guy: I hope you read the rough transcript of that Trump phone call with the Ukrainian president. Trump clearly used public power to ask a foreign leader to dig up dirt on his political opponent. This is impeachable. I don’t see how you can deny the facts in front of your face.

 

Flyover Man: I haven’t really had time to look into it. There’s always some fight between Trump and the East Coast media. I guess I just try to stay focused on the big picture.

The big picture is this: We knew this guy was a snake when we signed up. But he was the only one who saw us. He was the only one who saw that the America we love is being transformed in front of our eyes. Good jobs for hard-working people were gone. Our communities in tatters. Our kids in trouble. I had one shot at change, so I made a deal with the devil, and you’d have made it, too.

Nothing in this impeachment mess makes me rethink this bargain. If people like you are unable to acknowledge my dignity and see my problems, I’ll stay with Trump.

 

U.G.: The big picture? The big picture is the U.S. Constitution. It’s no man is above the law. We can’t live in a country in which our leaders flagrantly commit high crimes and nothing happens.

 

F.M.: I get it. He said some stupid crap on a phone call. But are you going to undo my vote for that? I wouldn’t even rank this among the top 25 worst things he’s done, and I’m a supporter of his!

Listen, do you remember those months just after the election when people like you were briefly curious about people like me? You sent your reporters out on wild safaris into the hinterlands to interview Trump voters. You read “Hillbilly Elegy.” Back then it was fashionable to say that Trump is just a symptom of real problems in America. He’s the wrong answer to the right question.

It didn’t take you long to lose interest in all that. Now we’re just a block of concrete you call “his base.” Now, all you care about is Trump, not his supporters or the issues driving us. Your whole media is Trump-O-Centric.

 

U.G.: We became Trump-O-Centric because his daily outrages undermine norms, spread xenophobia, degrade public morality.

 

F.M.: You think that because you have the kind of jobs that allow you to follow Twitter all day. I don’t have that luxury. So all that passing nonsense seems far away. I have to deal with the actual realities of life. 

One, mass immigration is changing my town, region and state. Two, the cultural liberalism you preach but don’t practice is leading to the breakdown of families up and down my block. Children out of wedlock. Young men with no dad when they’re young and no wife in their life when they’re grown. Third, an Ivy League elite running government and the economy for itself and shutting out those of us who actually make things with our hands. Fourth, China is replacing us.

 

U.G.: I’m happy to talk about these big problems.

 

F.M.: Like hell you are. The media fixates on scandals because they’re easier to talk about than complex issues like why urban and rural America are drifting further apart. You wasted billions of hours speculating about the Mueller report, and now news about Adam Schiff overshadows everything else while my world burns. Let’s face it: Bashing Trump is the media’s business model. That’s what drives eyeballs and profit.

 

U.G.: We can’t have a productive conversation with Trump around. He lies with abandon. He slanders and insults. He pollutes the water near and far.

 

F.M.: We can’t have productive conversations if every time I open my mouth you call me a bigot. You may not realize this, but you have Trump supporters around you all the time. It’s just that we’ve learned to keep our mouths shut in your presence. The crushing climate of blue cultural privilege is too strangulating.

 

U.G.: O.K. I get it. You’re not the first person to spin the right-wing victim narrative in front of me. Why don’t we focus on impeachment? On rule of law.

 

F.M.: Fine. Bottom line: I would be open to impeachment if you cared about my problems. I’d be open if all those silent Republican dissenters in the Senate had given me some G.O.P. alternative candidate who speaks our language and addresses our issues. I’d be open if there was a moderate Democratic Party that I thought deserved a shot. But I only see Democrats who’d make everything worse: Open the border! Socialism! More power to Washington! You could have paid attention to the forces driving Trumpism, but you ignored us.

So please don’t ask us to sign up for our own obliteration or support your impeachment. This is about identity and pride.

Here’s a confession. I used to think Trump was a jerk. Now, after three years of battle, I see him as my captain. He deserves my loyalty, thick and thin.

See ya’ in hell, brother.

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Uh oh,

 

Even Trump's favorite  channel is questioning him.

 

Another long week in politics is ahead.

 

Personally I think thus far they, the Dems, are keeping their powder dry, pretty certain there is much more dirt on Trump to come.

 

But, we wait and see.

 

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/29/20889765/trump-whistleblower-fox-news-sunday-stephen-miller-giuliani-stephanopoulos

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, scruffy1 said:

once you get older you'll appreciate that perception of timing wrt "past events" is unreliable

Once I become unreliable, I'm done with this life.

 

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16 hours ago, twinair said:

Once I become unreliable, I'm done with this life.

 

You say that now... It's funny how ones's limit for 'acceptable' tends to slip to match current abilities.

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