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I wonder what the Democrats will try pin on her? White supremacy? Russian collusion?

 

Maybe the Democrat version of Birtherism?

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 I'm inclined to think that win, lose or draw in 2020 by the time she makes a run the Dems will be just as happy if someone with credibility gets the job.

 

It's an odd thing in America that Trump has brought into sharp relief. Politics, between elections, used to be much more cohesive, but then you could say the same of Australia.

 

All this point scoring bores me to tears.

 

Cheers

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The good news is by that time Trump will have made a serious dent in the black vote.

 

Depending who he’s matched up against, black voters to Republicans is 12% (v Biden) to 22% (v Sanders).

 

At 12%, that’s he highest black vote for the GOP since 1968.

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You mean that piece of petulant cry babyism ?

 

Sure, it was worth a laugh, although as usual with him it was pretty much entirely a lie.

 

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7 minutes ago, chrisg said:

although as usual with him it was pretty much entirely a lie.

being the expert on that you'd know

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How very Trumpian of you - as usual no real answer....

 

It amuses me how many things you can get into a tizz over before breakfast, it really does...

 

What bemused me about Trump's letter is that he could not even get his facts straight, he blamed the Mueller Report on the Democrats, which sort of overlooks that it was a report commissioned by his Attorney General... I could go on but I doubt you are listening, or comprehending...

 

Cheers

 

 

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So the English results are in.

 

The Party of the worker is now the Conservatives. Labour is the older party by average MP age.

 

Labour is more ethnically diverse and is more than 50% female. The Conservatives are about 25% female and much lower ethnic diversity but lead in terms of LGBTIalphabet soup members.

 

The left-wing SNP is the whitest party with no non-white MPs.
 

While Brexit played a role, the more working class the area, the higher the swing to the Conservatives. Polling shows Brexit was secondary to leadership (ie Corbyn) for most voters.

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27 minutes ago, Leonid said:

Polling shows Brexit was secondary to leadership (ie Corbyn) for most voters.

 

I doubt we really needed a poll for that particular result... It brings into question the mandate when people are voting to keep the reds from under their beds. 

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He has a mandate by sheer magnitude of the win.

 

The question is whether Labour are going to be smart or socialist.

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I tend to think the British Labor party is going to have to dramatically regroup, or as Don Tapscott once said in relation to the Canadian equivalent, hold their next meeting in a telephone box....

 

Cheers

 

 

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1 hour ago, chrisg said:

I tend to think the British Labor party is going to have to dramatically regroup, or as Don Tapscott once said in relation to the Canadian equivalent, hold their next meeting in a telephone box....

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Just to be pedantic, In Australia, it's the 'Labor Party' and in Pommyland it's the 'Labour Party'.

3 hours ago, fliptopia said:

 

I doubt we really needed a poll for that particular result... It brings into question the mandate when people are voting to keep the reds from under their beds. 

 

Heard Bill Shorten whinging on the ABC yesterday and could feel Labor's support taking a nosedive.........................

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Whinging is all Bill Shorten is capable of - part of the reason he lost.

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5 hours ago, LogicprObe said:

 

Just to be pedantic, In Australia, it's the 'Labor Party' and in Pommyland it's the 'Labour Party'.

 

Heard Bill Shorten whinging on the ABC yesterday and could feel Labor's support taking a nosedive.........................

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There's a difference ? ( apart from my speel-checker not liking it )

 

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3 hours ago, chrisg said:

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There's a difference ? ( apart from my speel-checker not liking it )

 

Cheers

 

 

If I wanted to be a tacky inspirational quote I would say that U were the difference... 

 

The missing u in the Australian party just speaks more to it being an offshoot of the American party rather than coming from England. 

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48 minutes ago, fliptopia said:

If I wanted to be a tacky inspirational quote I would say that U were the difference... 

 

The missing u in the Australian party just speaks more to it being an offshoot of the American party rather than coming from England. 

 

BOOM! TISHHHH..................

 

It was actually spelt that way to distinguish it from the other parties with the same name.

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6 hours ago, Leonid said:

Not really. They both hate the working class.

 

PMSL.  I had that worked out when Keating made such statements as "The recession we had to have" and the Banana Republic thing.

 

A few years after that I was in my front yard and this door to door guy was trying to recruit people to join the party.  I prettywell told him that I wanted nothing to do with them thanks to the way they were fucking over the ordinary Aussie and had abandoned their values (this is when Keating was PM in his last year or two).

He practically agreed and made the point that joining could help effect change to take them back to their old values.

Of course I didn't take up the offer.

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Look I consider myself middle of upper middle class. I don’t earn half a million a year and not even a quarter. I want to send my children to good public schools and I can afford one local and one international holiday a year.

 

It’s not a bad life - I am only putting it up there to frame the next part.

 

My neighbour one flight of stairs and across is a self-employed plumber. He’s Aussie as fuck, like so Aussie that Aborigenes acknowledge his traditional lands (this may be vaguely racist, detector is broken).

 

He earns a stupid amount of money. Upwards of $300k. I know this because he’s told me and barring him lying, I’ve no reason to disbelieve him.

 

He is his own man, runs his business off a personal gmail account, no staff etc.

 

50 years ago this would’ve been a Labor voter. No doubt. He rails against corporates, is economically left-of-centre (but nothing too far).

 

He votes for the Libs because he’s socially conservative, goes to Church every other month and doesn’t hate the rich - they’re his customers - so he doesn’t want to punish them for being rich.

 

Labor/Labour/Democrats don’t know these people. They have on-purpose excised them from the party.

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Public Schools?  Pay?  The government run schools here are "public", the religious and corporate run ones are "private" (reverse of UK, same as the yanks)

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-11/marianne-williamson-leaves-us-democratic-presidential-race/11860186

 

Marianne Williamson has formerly declared she's out of the running for 2020

 

" She wasn't registering a single per cent in the polls and hadn't qualified for a debate since July. She laid off her entire campaign staff earlier this month, citing a lack of funds in a desperate signal to donors.

She qualified for two debates by raising more than $US6 million ($8.6 million) from over 65,000 Americans — something traditional politicians had failed to do — and outlasted democratic darlings like Kamala Harris, Beto O'Rourke and Bill DeBlasio.

If it sounds surprising, remember that the self-care industry is a $10 billion entity in the US.

Horoscope apps are wildly popular, suddenly on-level with vitamins and yoga and face masks.

More than three quarters of Americans say they're "spiritual"."

 

Wow she outlasted Kamala Harris ! That must have really got up Kamala's nose

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Now Cory Booker has thrown in the towel. Seemed a nice enough guy but he just could not get any traction.

 

At least the Democrat pack is thinning out...

 

Cheers

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