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4 hours ago, Cybes said:

 

There are very few of that sort of test one *can't* manipulate.  Self-awareness tests all rely on honesty.

Oh dear 😛

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The Democratic Socialists of America has officially endorsed Bernie Sanders for president, with the organization throwing its growing political clout behind the Vermont senator ahead of the 2020 election.

Democratic Socialists of America back Bernie: 'The best chance to beat Trump'

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“He has the best possible chance of the Democratic field to beat Trump,” said Jeremy Gong, a member of the NPC who voted to endorse Sanders.

“Specifically because he has a working-class political agenda, as opposed to an elite, or moderate, or corporate-friendly agenda that is not exciting to anyone electorally – except a very small number of either Democratic party diehards or upper middle class or wealthy people.”

 

 

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So some folks were a bit worried about Bernie, putting his hand up to attend a Fox town hall meeting, thinking he'd be stumbling into the lion's den...

 

But it was just like AOC's Watchmen tweet: 'You don't understand - I'm not locked up here with you lot - you're locked up in here with me.'

 

Fox crew went home carrying their arses. 

 

 

Bernie crushes Fox fucks

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Bernie bashers all pretending they haven't noticed this epic smackdown... 

 

He's so radical, the way he's the only one genuinely offering the policies people actually want. 

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lol @  pretending "  ... I got so sad watching your George Carlson vid in the other thread, that I've not opened one of yours since ... I miss George

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I really do like Bernie but I'm not sure he's the right candidate, mostly image for the 30 second attention span voters who grok  Trump sound bites.

 

Cheers

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1 hour ago, chrisg said:

I really do like Bernie but I'm not sure he's the right candidate, mostly image for the 30 second attention span voters who grok  Trump sound bites.

 

..?  Can you please illustrate for my obviously dim mind how in blazes you managed to come to that conclusion?

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Hah, those dicks at Fox have claimed copyright on all the vids to get them pulled.

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9 hours ago, Cybes said:

 

..?  Can you please illustrate for my obviously dim mind how in blazes you managed to come to that conclusion?

 

🙂

 

Bernie has a proper set of policies that are interlocked and need to be understood, Trump hops around in Twitter sound bites blithering about himself and offering inane unneeded advice to anyone who will listen - in other words Trump appeals to the common voter, you know, morons 🙂

 

...and yes, I was tired when I wrote it   🙂

 

Cheers

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Fox put out takedowns for vids featuring the Sanders interview, but they put it up on Youtube... it's their 84th most watched (five years of uploads, currently about 30 a day).

 

 

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Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" 
 
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
 
"A few things spring to mind.
 
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
 
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
 
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
 
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
 
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
 
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
 
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
 
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
 
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
 
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
 
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
 
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
 
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
 
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
 
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
 
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
 
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
 
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
 
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
 
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
 
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
 
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
 
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
 
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
 
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
 
'My God… what… have… I… created?
 
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
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Trump is like an implausible fictional character; a cartoon.

 

Except when you see he's getting away with being that, you realise the genre is horror.

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7 hours ago, scruffy1 said:

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."

Whilst reading this English person you quote, my mind kept returning to the English version of  " A House of Cards ". It's like the serious version of " Yes Prime Minister " both really remarkable and deadly shows ;)

Whilst I enjoy English humour, history does not portray some of their noted figures as great human beings either.  No biggy you understand ... just sayin'

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🙂

 

Really Ev ?

 

Just which English persons would you be thinking of ?

 

The British do very much support the under dog, except there is a thin strata of the upper class who like scum tend to float to the surface and unfortunately get some power and recognition.

 

In the main though that is not British and such stuff-ups get kicked to the kerb.

 

The Dems now have Biden declaring to run as well, getting crowded. It might be useful though, if he were to partner up with O'Rourke  they would be a hell of a team.

 

The Democratic Primaries are going to be very, very interesting, may the best win.

 

Cheers

 

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4 hours ago, chrisg said:

🙂

 

Really Ev ?

 

Just which English persons would you be thinking of ?

 

The British do very much support the under dog, except there is a thin strata of the upper class who like scum tend to float to the surface and unfortunately get some power and recognition.

 

In the main though that is not British and such stuff-ups get kicked to the kerb.

...

 

4 hours ago, chrisg said:

 

 

Yes really. 😉

 

The obvious answer would likely be Thatcher, but then someones will disagree.

 

Also, pretty sure I made no comment at all on the general character of your average Brit.

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🙂

 

You would get no argument from me about Thatcher, she who became a Baroness was already well entrenched in that layer of scum.  You could add a few others at the top of the Tory party over the years as well. Britain has sorely lacked a decent prime minister for a very long time, part of the reason I gave up on living there.

 

They are somewhat behind Australia and a long way behind America at voting utter twats into power though. It's just very difficult to think of a true leader in pretty much all of my lifetime..

 

The saving grace is that the Westminster system which is not the way America operates but is for the other two countries does not vest as much power in a leader for a fixed term and can and does turf out the ones that rise to the top via the buoyancy of an empty head.

 

England goes about its business because of the civil service as one of the shows you mention so aptly lampooned but there was an undercurrent of truth.

 

Australia is similar, America is having to learn to endure despite an idiot at the helm, fortunately Foggy Bottom is reasonably up to the task and several of Trump's inner circle have demonstrably been just ignoring his wilder deviations from sanity. The Pentagon has not had to reveal yet that it can ignore him if need be.

 

Cheers

 

 

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On 4/26/2019 at 3:31 PM, chrisg said:

They are somewhat behind Australia and a long way behind America at voting utter twats into power though.

 

Um, Brexit? 

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On 25/04/2019 at 11:01 PM, scruffy1 said:
 
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" 
 
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
 

 

 

Nobody is disputing that

but he still looks better than Hillary in 2016, and most of the democratic contenders for 2020

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Hmm,

 

Teresa May is just weakened scum on the surface.

 

England made a fundamental error in even entertaining leaving the EU, after decades of trying to get in for chrissakes, but, they'll survive, they always do,

 

Most but not all TMFP, the Democrats need some significant pruning, the Republicans need a new weed or he will bring them all down, and they know it.

 

Cheers

 

 

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On 4/28/2019 at 5:05 PM, chrisg said:

they'll survive, they always do

 

At a diminished status, which will continue to diminish ever further, the longer they deny it. 

 

Some of em haven't even faced up to the loss of empire, let alone how much diminishment Thatcherism wrought. 

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