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We are generally in favour of an easy-touch approach to moderation.  It's rare for us to PM a user and ask them to modify content, or it being objectionable enough to just hide or delete it immediately.

 

There are some threads that are just made for going off-topic, and some that seem to sprawl and wander back and forth a little, gyrating around a mostly understood central axis.  There are also some great threads that end up having nothing to do with anything they should, or were intended, because of, for want of a better description, user interactions and their history.

 

We're open to suggestions on how you'd like to have thread derailing handled.   A possible option is to fork disparate conversational threads into their own thread, or into another thread.

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23 minutes ago, Nich... said:

A possible option is to fork disparate conversational threads into their own thread, or into another thread.

 

^Vote.  Judging exactly when that'd be warranted could be challenging on occasion, but many are very clear.

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If the OP generator has no issue with the chosen topic diversifying then I don't see a problem tbh.

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Hey, I can cope with whatever happens.  I'm just saying that *if* you're going to take action, then ^that's the one I'd favour - it'd be a lot easier to search for a thread name containing "Trump" than knowing you have to go looking 4-5 pages from the end of whatever thread that was.

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I don't mind threads meandering. I do get frustrated by the number that all come back to exactly the same arguments that have been made by the same people in umpteen different threads and end us always back tot he same point.

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Just to be transparent, Nich and I have discussed this and we like the idea of forking when it seems needed. So you may sometimes see some fork on your thread in future.

 

 

Kniving is fun too, but probably not something we want to promote.  Spooning is obviously greatly encouraged. 🙂

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1 hour ago, Chaos.Lady said:

Kniving is fun  [ . . . ]  Spooning is obviously greatly encouraged.

 

I am equal parts concerned and depressed. 😉

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So quiet here, does it matter much?

 

If I was to make a suggestion for change, it'd be to downsize the number of forums back to like it was originally, like about 8 or so.

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On 5/25/2019 at 9:27 PM, Rybags said:

So quiet here, does it matter much?

 

If I was to make a suggestion for change, it'd be to downsize the number of forums back to like it was originally, like about 8 or so.

 

I agree.

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Which would you like to see trimmed?  And by trimmed, we'd need somewhere to dump their contents.

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On 2/7/2020 at 7:09 PM, familylawyerssydney said:

What do you think of coronavirus?

 

Divorce Lawyers Sydney

 

 

LOL!

 

A spamming laywer....................better call Saul!

 

edit - Nich..............you coulda fixed my spelling while you were at it!

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My favourite bit is that it's for a commercial law firm that thinks this is a good place to fish for traffic via... linking coronavirus with spam and divorce?

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On 04/01/2020 at 8:09 PM, Nich... said:

Which would you like to see trimmed?  And by trimmed, we'd need somewhere to dump their contents.

 

The tech areas are ghost towns.  Back before the heyday there were less of them, then we had offshoots like Apple and Mobile Tech.

IMO a good move would be amalgamation - it used to be frowned to put troubleshooting stuff in Tech Talk but really that forum should encompass both those things and probably Memory, Overclocking and some of the others.

 

Given the lack of traffic, I reckon the entire site's forums could easily be trimmed down to about 10 or less sections (by trimmed I don't mean delete stuff but just merge together)

 

Or idea #2 - just pick the forums to keep then prevent new threads in the other ones, and reorder the forums page to reflect that, flagging the retired ones as archival.

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13 minutes ago, Rybags said:

Given the lack of traffic, I reckon the entire site's forums could easily be trimmed down to about 10 or less sections (by trimmed I don't mean delete stuff but just merge together)

 

Given how many people are here, and the traffic on the various subs, you could legitimately combine everything into Chat (TGR) and Tech (everything else).

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Photography could fall into the tech area.  You could widen Tech Talk out, but have a secondary sub for... dunno... artistic inclinations?  That could include stuff like photography, graphic design - you could even move audio in there, or just add a music descriptor.

So we are talking:

 

Box & Tools

Tech Talk

Gaming

Tech Creativity

 

Geeks

TGR

Thunderdome

Feedback & Community Events

Trademart

 

The whole she-bang in 7 sections.

If you wanted to split it out slightly more you could split Tech Talk into

Tech Talk

Tech Help

which I think would be nice.

 

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That would make the 8 sections:

 

Box & Tools

Tech Talk - Talking tech of all flavours.

Tech Help - I accidentally the whole thing.

Tech Creativity  - Tech with an artistic side.  Photography, Video, Music and all that poetic potential.

Gaming  - Win, lose or get eaten by a grue.

 

Geeks

The Green Room  - The pub on the corner.  Moderated with kittens and rainbows.

The Thunderdome  - Unmoderated discussion, argument and debate.  Enter at your own risk.

Feedback & Community Events  - Site discussion and gathering type social event things.

Trademart  - Buyer beware.

 

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It should be a straight up merge and flatten I think.  Each section should have a pinned post explaining basically what goes in there.  That post can be left for however long, or just left perminent at the top.  It should be pretty straightforward tho.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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Community stuff could be sticked GR threads.

Though that said, I hate when forums sticky a dozen threads which then occupy the top half of every subject list page you scroll through.

 



Box & Tools

Tech Talk - Talking tech of all flavours.

Tech Help - I accidentally the whole thing.

Tech Creativity  - Tech with an artistic side.  Photography, Video, Music and all that poetic potential.

Gaming  - Win, lose or get eaten by a grue.

 

Geeks

The Green Room  - The pub on the corner.  Moderated with kittens and rainbows.

The Thunderdome  - Unmoderated discussion, argument and debate.  Enter at your own risk.

Feedback & Community Events  - Site discussion and gathering type social event things.

Trademart  - Buyer beware.

 

I like it!  Especially The Thunderdome.

Sure, you'd still get some with a trickle where 2 years worth fits on a page, but way easier to trawl through than what we have now.

And a big part of my reasoning for the amalgamation is thanks to the New Content function being messed with by the Invision developers.

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2 hours ago, Chaos.Lady said:

Box & Tools

Tech Talk - Talking tech of all flavours.

Tech Help - I accidentally the whole thing.

Tech Creativity  - Tech with an artistic side.  Photography, Video, Music and all that poetic potential.

Gaming  - Win, lose or get eaten by a grue.

 

Geeks

The Green Room  - The pub on the corner.  Moderated with kittens and rainbows.

The Thunderdome  - Unmoderated discussion, argument and debate.  Enter at your own risk.

Feedback & Community Events  - Site discussion and gathering type social event things.

Trademart  - Buyer beware.

 

Ok, I can get behind that.  Given that the "Box & Tools" groups are almost certainly going to be way slow, maybe those should be listed below the "Geeks" section?

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4 hours ago, Rybags said:

Community stuff could be sticked GR threads.

Sometimes. But some things like pax tend to be around for quite a while, and aren't if much interest to anyone else not attending.

 

4 hours ago, Rybags said:

Though that said, I hate when forums sticky a dozen threads which then occupy the top half of every subject list page you scroll through.

Yeah, I want to avoid that as much as possible. If we're going for a fresh clean look, it should stay looking that way as much as possible.

 

4 hours ago, Rybags said:

Sure, you'd still get some with a trickle where 2 years worth fits on a page, but way easier to trawl through than what we have now.

That's why I think deliberately low traffic sections like feedback and community still have value staying as separate subs.

 

4 hours ago, Rybags said:

 

And a big part of my reasoning for the amalgamation is thanks to the New Content function being messed with by the Invision developers.

Do you mind reminding me what it's doing that you'd prefer it not?

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6 hours ago, Chaos.Lady said:

Thoughts?

You promised me improvements, not objectively bad things from an objectively bad person.

 

In its simplest form, each section should have a clear purpose. Tech talk for tech news and advice and troubleshooting, hardware and software, mobile or stationary. Gaming for anything gaming related.

 

Imo part of keeping simple clear lines for this should be about not needing to think about where to post something, and accepting topic drift in threads. Especially given the trend of omnibus threads. If you are trying to do one thing but stumble upon issues on the way, it may as well all be handled in the one place as much as possible, to retain context, without half a dozen links to small niche threads.

 

'Artsy' stuff feels very niche, and at this point a solution looking for a problem. Without being facaetious, I'd argue it should go in tgr or tt, depending on the poster and subject matter and what the poster wants to get out of the thread. Cool camera rig taking photos of the stars, rotating with the sky/earth? Tech talk, tell us more about the toys as well as the software and compositional choices. Doodling on top of newspaper photos (a la DJ Howard)? The green room. Blacksmithing? Knitting? Dealer's choice. The site is still nominally about enthusiast computing, but that permeates so many hobbies and etc these days.  but we've had 'tech talk's for a long time, maybe as long as tgr. Maybe we should lean in on that, and capture enthusiast computing technology.

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Unread Content - the preferred way it works for me was the old way where it just gave a condensed list of threads in reverse order that they've been posted to, regardless if you're subcribed or have read them or not.

None of this conditional stuff, and no preview that bloats each one out to 4 lines of display in the list, no other unwanted stuff like status updates or whatever.

 

The reasoning for that being you don't have to browse through each section to get the new stuff.

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