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How will/did you vote in the 2019 federal election and why?

How will/did you vote in the 2019 federal election and why?  

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  1. 1. Who will/did receive your House of Representatives first preference?

    • Australian Labor Party
      2
    • Liberal/National
      2
    • United Australia Party
      0
    • The Greens
      3
    • One Nation
      1
    • Liberal Democratic Party
      0
    • independent (please specify)
      0
    • other (please specify)
      2
  2. 2. Who will/did receive your Senate first preference?

    • Australian Labor Party
      1
    • Liberal/National
      2
    • United Australia Party
      0
    • The Greens
      3
    • One Nation
      1
    • Liberal Democratic Party
      0
    • independent (please specify)
      0
    • other (please specify)
      3


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For me for the house of representatives it is a hard choice but I it will probably be Liberal. Don't get me wrong; I don't like Liberal; I just consider them less bad than the alternatives (Labor, The Greens, Tim BOHM, Australian Progressives, United Australia Party) because they are for smaller government (even though it will still be far too big), less taxation (even though it will be far too much) and for a budget surplus (even though it should be more).

 

For me for the senate I think I will vote Fraser Anning's Conservative National Party. I really like the following policies:

 

i) the vision of Sir Henry Parkes of Australia as an English speaking, predominantly European Christian Commonwealth, as originally described in 1901 when Australia as a nation was founded;

ii) social cohesion by an immigration program that gives preference to those best able to integrate and assimilate;

iii) traditional family values, including recognising marriage as only the union of a man and a woman and the sanctity of human life at all ages, including both the unborn and the elderly;

iv) government through the democratic consent of the governed;

v) individual freedom, including unrestricted freedom of speech, association and belief;

vi) private enterprise;

vii) private property as an inviolable natural right;

. . .

ix) Australian ownership of our infrastructure, manufacturing and agriculture;

x) widely distributed ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange through owner operated farms, small business and co-operatives;

. . .

xv) the right to own firearms and use them in self-defence;

 

 

What about you?

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Last time I voted Greens in the House of Reps,  but I feel they've lost their way.

 

I am voting for Flux first in the Senate followed by a few parties like the Australian Democrats and the Science party before listing Labor as number six.

 

 

Why? Because I'm a moderate lefty with socialist views and a tendency towards Keynesian economics.

As an aside, before the reforms to the senate ballot paper, I used to number every box below the line just so I could put Fred Nile's party last. If the changes had not been made, it would be One Nation in the penultimate position and Anning last. 

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I quite like the sound of the Sustainable Australia party at the moment. Stopping over development and putting foreign aid into female education and contraception while looking after the environment seem good. Creating secure jobs and a diversity of jobs sounds good too.

 

I know they are unlikely to get a seat but I like to think that if enough people are voting that way then the bigger parties have to take those policies more seriously. 

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i'll be numbering all the boxes, and putting tony last

 

i still reckon he might win warringah, because there's a lot of rusted on types here - but if he does, then given i suspect the labor party will rule either as a minority or even outright, i can predict the toned abs will feel it is his duty to ascend to leader of the opposition

 

in which case the liberals' chances are fucked until he dies

 

 

for the senate, flux and the pirates can have my support, even though i doubt they will get seats

the greens are a bit of a rabble nationally, and although i am primarily very "green" in my views, i am not impressed by them wasting precious bodily fluids on internal politics

 

 

in truth, as long as the unrepresentative swill has no absolute majority for either major party, i'm pleased

 

a house of review needs to be the devil's advocate, not a rubber stamp for lower house decisions, especially if there's a landslide

 

but i predict it will be pretty tight rather than a rout in the house of reps

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Posted (edited)

saw an article tonight about how Bob's death is apparently being used ... by the media mostly I think. fuck but I'm totally over people just now

...also sorry for the "fucks" ... but on the other hand it's exactly the way I feel

11 minutes ago, scruffy1 said:

i can predict the toned abs will feel it is his duty to ascend to leader of the opposition

don't you think Julie Bishop will come in to save the day if what you say looks like happening ? I mean Tones is done and dusted being Leader ... he had his chance and totally blew it.

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1 hour ago, eveln said:

saw an article tonight about how Bob's death is apparently being used ... by the media mostly I think. fuck but I'm totally over people just now

...also sorry for the "fucks" ... but on the other hand it's exactly the way I feel

don't you think Julie Bishop will come in to save the day if what you say looks like happening ? I mean Tones is done and dusted being Leader ... he had his chance and totally blew it.

 

tony has the insight of a house brick, which i don't believe to be sentient

 

he is so deluded that he still feels it is his job to represent "true liberals" and will be completely at ease with the response to any request to rally the god-bothering troops of the right

 

julie bishop has shot through; the liberals will never entertain having a woman in charge even if she has more balls than the current pm (who has just oven an hour left on his penultimate day in the role)

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I know an old lady who will gladly tell you that Tony Abbott is her hero and Peter Dutton is the only politician who she fully trusts. Some of her family won't speak to her because of her highly conservative views. 

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2 hours ago, scruffy1 said:

the liberals will never entertain having a woman in charge

They may not 'entertain with relish ' , but I reckon the concept of a femme leader will be foisted on them soon enough .  Michaelia Cash will of course always be a sure loser whatever team stands for

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47 minutes ago, eveln said:

Michaelia Cash

 

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Oh wow

 

From just over a year ago

 

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Nice one

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The only thing that excites me in this election is the satisfaction I'll get in putting the either the competent communists or the incompetent nazis last.

 

What I will make sure I do is that I reverse their order to make sure their number one candidates get my lowest vote.

 

Usually I put the communists lasts but this year I truly am conflicted. Having said this, given the commies poll about 10% most of the time, and the nazis will probably only get votes from their moms, I feel it's probably best to put the commies dead last.

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5 hours ago, TheManFromPOST said:

for the senate I voted for 'the pirate party'

 

yaaar !

 

i overheard some old boys from the surf club at the local service station reminiscing on how zali is too left wing - tony likely swims with them i guess

 

despite my hopes, i think he might surprise us all... sorta like those characters in a horror movie that you reckon are dead, but just when you walk away, rise to attack from behind

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Democracy obligations complete.

 

Greens 105 to 100 down to make sure their number 1 pick gets my lowest vote. Then Socialist Equality. Then Socialist Alternative. Then Australian Workers Party. Then the Nazis. Then the anti-vaxxers.

 

Up top, Lib Dems, followed by Libs, then Science Party, then Labor.

 

In house of reps my only regret was that I couldn’t put Clive lower then 5. Too many Greens and other associated subhumans.

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8 hours ago, Kimmo said:

 

picture unfair to koalas

see, now I had always thought fondly of the koala. It will take some time for the association pictured to be wiped from my mind. Michaelia is not ( imo ) an unfairly treated person.

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🙂

 

I tend to think that pic is shopped, koalas don't really have fangs, not exactly needed to chew eucalyptus leaves   🙂

 

Cheers

 

 

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Voting for the 'no blacks in this country' party over the diehard jesus freaks?  Curiouser and curiouser.

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23 hours ago, fliptopia said:

I quite like the sound of the Sustainable Australia party at the moment. Stopping over development and putting foreign aid into female education and contraception while looking after the environment seem good. Creating secure jobs and a diversity of jobs sounds good too.

 

I know they are unlikely to get a seat but I like to think that if enough people are voting that way then the bigger parties have to take those policies more seriously. 

There's a weird undercurrent to their immigration policy that I'm not comfortable with.  Most of their policies don't sound too bad.  But they were super vague about how to make housing more affordable when I put the question to them, repeatedly when they prevaricated about not wanting to make housing cheaper.

 

18 hours ago, eveln said:

don't you think Julie Bishop will come in to save the day if what you say looks like happening ? I mean Tones is done and dusted being Leader ... he had his chance and totally blew it.

How will she come save the day?  She's not running so either someone has to fall on their sword for her to win a by-election in the next month or two, or she'd have to be patient and bide her time in the wildnerness for 3 years, and then run again.  And see if anyone will step aside for her to be preselected.

 

11 hours ago, Leonid said:

The only thing that excites me in this election is the satisfaction I'll get in putting the either the competent communists or the incompetent nazis last.

 

What I will make sure I do is that I reverse their order to make sure their number one candidates get my lowest vote.

 

Usually I put the communists lasts but this year I truly am conflicted. Having said this, given the commies poll about 10% most of the time, and the nazis will probably only get votes from their moms, I feel it's probably best to put the commies dead last.

There were a multitude of actual communist parties running, let alone actual socialist parties.  Calling the Greens the commies is way too vague an implication at this point.  It's like talking about the Christians and referring to Bernardi.

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Hmm,

 

I was in the midst of posting about context Nich, when you did.

 

I do agree,  in reverse order there are no real reds under the bed in Oz atm, pays to be vigilant but no. Julie is not bar a miracle coming back, she is so utterly pissed off with the old boys club that they can go rot in hell.  Had not gone any where near that deep in that party, interesting.

 

Cheers

 

 

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Why am I not surprised that DMB would vote for actual white supremacists, only a language and location away from being literal Nazis.

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19 hours ago, scruffy1 said:

the greens are a bit of a rabble nationally, and although i am primarily very "green" in my views, i am not impressed by them wasting precious bodily fluids on internal politics

Do you mean nationally as in the federal party and members, or the NSW greens party at a federal level?

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2 hours ago, Nich... said:

There were a multitude of actual communist parties running, let alone actual socialist parties.  Calling the Greens the commies is way too vague an implication at this point.  It's like talking about the Christians and referring to Bernardi.

 

The NSW Greens for 8 years were effectively lead by the Stalinist daughter of Communist Party of Australia parents. In the 70s she joined the Soviet-aligned and loyal Socialist Party of Australia.

 

Thereafter she formed within the Greens a Left Renewal faction whose raison d’etre Is to “smash capitalism”.

 

Shall I keep going about the dirty commies?

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1 minute ago, Nich... said:

Actual.  Communists.

 

The goal of socialism is communism.

 

- Vladimir Lenin

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Did you read up on the Socialist Equality Party?

 

Actual communists.  Anti-feminism, anti-gays, anti-unions, anti-anything that detracts from class warfare.

No-one is probably going to claim NSW Greens aren't a fucking basketcase, BTW.

 

But actual communists.

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