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hello people,

 

i would like to invest in water cooling. But there is one problem i have no idea what i need. It will be used to cool my soon to be overclocked E8500. I have no idea what amount it will take to have a decent system. Does anyone own the Coolermaster Aquagate MAX?

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your better of getting air cooling than cheap water like that if you want water this is about as cheap as it gets

 

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit Price: $425

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...roducts_id=8508

 

Radiical Ultra Triple FuZion $430-475

http://www.radiical.com.au/products/Radiic...raTripleKit.asp

Radiical FuZion Extreme D5 Kit $372-397

http://www.radiical.com.au/products/Radiic...xtremeD5Kit.asp

 

Extreme Performance - PA120.2 Bundle ('The Basics') $465

http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?...products_id=518

Extreme Performance - PA120.3 Bundle - 'The Basics' $500.00

http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?...products_id=517

 

if you want to read up on watercooling these are a good place to start

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=596949

http://i4memory.com/wp/martins-liquid-lab

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70

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your better of getting air cooling than cheap water like that if you want water this is about as cheap as it gets

 

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit Price: $425

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...roducts_id=8508

 

Radiical Ultra Triple FuZion $430-475

http://www.radiical.com.au/products/Radiic...raTripleKit.asp

Radiical FuZion Extreme D5 Kit $372-397

http://www.radiical.com.au/products/Radiic...xtremeD5Kit.asp

 

Extreme Performance - PA120.2 Bundle ('The Basics') $465

http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?...products_id=518

Extreme Performance - PA120.3 Bundle - 'The Basics' $500.00

http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?...products_id=517

 

if you want to read up on watercooling these are a good place to start

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=596949

http://i4memory.com/wp/martins-liquid-lab

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Excellent resources. Thanks.

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Thank you, i already have air cooling and it is not ideal for the central queensland weather (40C upwards). Would i see a benefit in with water cooling in this heat.

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P.S my house is NOT aircon :(

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Thank you, i already have air cooling and it is not ideal for the central queensland weather (40C upwards). Would i see a benefit in with water cooling in this heat.

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P.S my house is NOT aircon :(

good watercooling should get your cpu to around 10-20c of ambient when under load depending on parts and how much you oc

imo it would be a good idea to spend another ~$70 and get a gpu block

 

the biggest advantage to watercooling is you can get a large rad or two and run low speed fans so you can keep noise down

a high speed fan on air cooling is normal only around 5-10c worse than water

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could you buy a air con unit?

And sky-rocket utility bills? I think that's just as inefficient as TEC cooling. LOL Edited by ph33liX

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What do you think of the Thermaltake xpressor

all theremaltake watercooling sucks

 

i cant find much about xpressor though from what i can find it may be a phase change case tt is working on that will be ~$1200 and they can use as much power as a small aircon

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What do you think of the Thermaltake xpressor

*inhales*

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ooo *inhales again* ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

I just finished playing with it today, and I'm serious, stay away from it. Performance is terrible.

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What do you think of the Thermaltake xpressor

*inhales*

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ooo *inhales again* ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

I just finished playing with it today, and I'm serious, stay away from it. Performance is terrible.

 

Wow, sucks that bad.

Thermaltake should save up on the marketing and gimmicks and instead, dedicate to some real R&D. Their products look more and more cheesy by the year, can't exactly say the same for positive reviews.

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You should be OK with a 8500, but a word of warning a 4870 @ Default Clocks and Q6700 @ 3ghz (stock volts) is getting my CPU temps up around the 70 mark atm, its rather worrisome.

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You should be OK with a 8500, but a word of warning a 4870 @ Default Clocks and Q6700 @ 3ghz (stock volts) is getting my CPU temps up around the 70 mark atm, its rather worrisome.

Time to turn up the fans.

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Thank you, i already have air cooling and it is not ideal for the central queensland weather (40C upwards). Would i see a benefit in with water cooling in this heat.

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P.S my house is NOT aircon :(

If you are thinking of watercooling and you are worried about the heat problem, look seriously at a salt water aquarium chiller. I wouldn't go for the cheap peltier type but the refrigerant ones which cost about $400 up. They often turn up secondhand on eBay at very reasonable prices.

 

These type of chillers come inbuilt with a water pump, so you don't have to worry about a pump.

 

You could mount the chiller outside your room in order to minimize the heat generated by the chiller. You may not even require a radiator, just a water block.

 

The size of the chiller would depend on what you want to cool e.g. cpu, gpu and other components. There was one Gold Coast distributor, a while back, especially modifying these chillers especially for computers.

 

I wouldn't be too concerned about water condensation inside the computer case. As long as there is good airflow inside the computer case, condensation wont have time to form, much in the same way as a frost-free fridge.

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Thank you, i already have air cooling and it is not ideal for the central queensland weather (40C upwards). Would i see a benefit in with water cooling in this heat.

`

P.S my house is NOT aircon :(

i live in cq too. my e6550 @ 2.8Ghz with zalman cooler sits on 30-35 idle

 

all i have is thermaltake wingrs101 case with intake and exhaust fans

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Hi Fellow Atomicans,

 

I have been considering water cooling for some time now. I worked very hard early last year hand picking this PC project while building, ensuring excellent airflow and whispering fans when running. I went with a Antec P182, Asus Maximus Formula Mobo, Intel Q6700 & a Zalman Heat Piped Cooled 750Watt PSU. But all came crashing down when I installed a Asus ATI 3870x2. Oh the DB pain.... Anyhow I am now moving on from the 3870x2 to the 4870x2 EK Water Cooled & have been considering the "Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit" as most have mentioned, will this kit be enough to cool a 4870x2 and Q6700 o'clocked @ 3Ghz?

 

Here is a Pic of my current rig setup:

 

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PS: will there be enough wattage from the 750Watt PSU to power the new 4870x2?

 

Appreciate any help

 

Ta

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for a 22inch screen you really only need a single HD4870 but theres still more than enough grunt in a 3870x2 to power through most games at 180x1050 so I think maybe just stick with for the time being and get some good watercooling, the kit you mentioned is pretty good but you can in most cases build the same kit but by ordering the parts seperately and save about $40-50

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InKiMo

the swiftech kit only has a 2x120mm rad so things could still be fairly warm if you use low speed fans on it but other than that it should be fine

 

you can always start with that then expand to something more like this if needed though

http://www.radiical.com.au/projects/AntecP180CaseProject.asp

you shouldnt need that many rads though just the 2x120 on the rear and at least a 120x120 between the gpu and cpu to keep it nice and cool

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for a 22inch screen you really only need a single HD4870 but theres still more than enough grunt in a 3870x2 to power through most games at 180x1050 so I think maybe just stick with for the time being and get some good watercooling, the kit you mentioned is pretty good but you can in most cases build the same kit but by ordering the parts seperately and save about $40-50

I had considered Water Cooling the 3870x2 but spending $230 on a water block. When I could Sell the card getting around $250 and put that money towards a 4870x2, I know I would be spending more but..errrr…I want it :) . Also the other reason is that in Issue 98 it clearly showed the 4870x2 doubled the Benchmark results over the 3870x2. So I've sort of made up me mind on that one. I think getting the kit will also be a good first learning experience so I know I'm not missing anything.

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InKiMo

the swiftech kit only has a 2x120mm rad so things could still be fairly warm if you use low speed fans on it but other than that it should be fine

 

you can always start with that then expand to something more like this if needed though

http://www.radiical.com.au/projects/AntecP180CaseProject.asp

you shouldnt need that many rads though just the 2x120 on the rear and at least a 120x120 between the gpu and cpu to keep it nice and cool

Thanks for the link Guru.

 

I will use it as a guide, I not to keen on mounting the radiator on the inside of the case though. Might just pop it on the back...just in case....

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IT'S ALIVE! (Wicked laugh)

 

Grins ear to ear here.

 

Picked up a 4870x2 on Ebay for $550 with EK water block & works a gem.

 

Installed the Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Kit removing the stock fans on the radiator as reading reviews they were quiet loud. So I picked up a couple of Cooler Master Long Life 120mm fans; 2000Rpm at 19dBA, 50,000 long life sleeve bearings, RoHS Compliant.

 

CPU Idle 23oc

GPUs Idle 30oc

 

CPU Load 35oc

GPU Load 42oc

 

Here's a Pic of the outcome:

 

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Thats pretty dam cool :D

Thanks Mate,

 

Best part is, no out of control GPU fan YAHOOO!

 

Nice and Quiet.

 

Can play GTA in Peace. I know the meaning of having speakers not just headphones. :))

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